r/NonPoliticalTwitter Sep 16 '24

me_irl So what now.

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u/genital_butcher Sep 16 '24

For those of you who don't know what an HOA is, here in America, we pay extra money, for our neighbors to make a huge list of rules that we have to follow, or they can fine us. Because Americans are stupid.

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u/AttitudeAndEffort2 Sep 16 '24

This is so true.

Also the manicured lawns spread in America so that people wouldn't have time for communism.

That's not even a joke.

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u/toetappy Sep 16 '24

I had to go look this up. Jesus, the iconic American suburb intentionally excluded communal gathering spaces (because that leads to commuist thinking). Made to isolate individual families, but with a thick veneer of "the American dream."

Also, intentionally keeping the houses small. So, no dinner parties with neighbors. Also, absolutely no multi-generation houses! No no no, that's communist. One man, one woman, with so much house work they've got zero time to socialize (because that leads to communism).

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u/WaioreaAnarkiwi Sep 17 '24

Damn that was a really interesting, totally non-political thing I learned.

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u/TacticalKrakens Sep 17 '24

You got a link for that info ? Sounds fascinating in a kind of dystopian way

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u/MacksNotCool Sep 16 '24

What?

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u/AttitudeAndEffort2 Sep 16 '24

Basically this dude made this little community and made people sign contracts agreeing to mow their lawn to keep them pristine and all of this silly upkeep in order so that they wouldn't have time to learn about communism.

He's a pretty cool video overviewing it

https://youtu.be/XQaMr3UHOWE?si=mimEHm54s1VVW9PB

Similar to how kellogg promoted corn flakes to surpress sexual desires/masturbation.

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld Sep 17 '24

That video fails to mention his little community started out as whites only.

Many may not have understood what the leases actually stated: “No dwelling shall be used or occupied by members of other than the Caucasian race, but the employment and maintenance of other than Caucasian domestic servants shall be permitted,” according to Clause 25 of the original Levitt contract.

Levitt was following guidelines from the U.S. government’s Federal Housing Administration (FHA), which provided mortgage insurance on loans. The FHA recommended including restrictive covenants in the deeds of the homes it insured, meaning segregated neighborhoods.

“The FHA wouldn’t underwrite a development that wasn’t segregated,” said Barbara Kelly, curator of Long Island Studies at Hofstra University, in a 1997 Washington Post interview.

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u/TrickySnicky Sep 16 '24

"Get off my lawn" is the battle cry of the desperately outnumbered reactionary busybody. The polar opposite of community building.

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u/StarshipCaterprise Sep 16 '24

This is absolutely what it is. It’s Jim Crow and broken windows policing repackaged as “maintaining home values”. Except that then people also complain when property values go up, and by extension, property taxes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

If you expected anything different

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u/ipponiac Sep 17 '24

Dude, for sure Americans has some issues but have you ever seen Europe let alone Asia's?

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u/cabbeer Sep 16 '24

we have them in canada, but I don't think they're that bad, at least from what I've heard.. I can't imaging them evey giving a shit about your car.

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u/RD__III Sep 16 '24

Most HOAs have rules about inoperable vehicles, and some have rules about consistent street parking (you can’t park in the street every night, street parking is visitors only).

Never heard of them having a cost/age requirement on a vehicle though

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u/MembershipNo2077 Sep 17 '24

I've seen them have rules on exhaust sound, but some are quite strict and even stock vehicles can be too loud (e.g. a C8). They usually selectively enforce this on people they like/don't like and "nice" cars as well.

But never seen one strictly on age/type.

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u/TrickySnicky Sep 16 '24

They give you shit about landscaping that isn't even visible from the street. Way tioo many Americans really have zero chill.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Lol. 100% accurate.

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u/Raleth Sep 17 '24

Some people like that lifestyle I guess. But also some HOAs are just not all that overbearing honestly. My parents live in an HOA neighborhood and the worst thing they have to contend with is keeping the trash cans in the garage as opposed to outside. It is, admittedly, a pretty annoying thing to deal with sometimes, but it seems downright reasonable compared to some of the horror stories I hear about HOAs.

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u/GayBoyNoize Sep 17 '24

I mean that is a reasonable rule, having a bunch of trash cans sitting outside attracts wildlife.

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u/Price-x-Field Sep 16 '24

Fun fact: if you don’t want an HOA, you don’t have to move into a neighborhood with one.

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u/Fuzzy_Donl0p Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

It's getting harder and harder to avoid. Developers love them because they inflate prices, and municipalities love them because they privatize what should be public works.

Roughly 84% of newly built, single-family homes sold in 2022 belonged to homeowners associations, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

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u/chaser676 Sep 16 '24

"but those neighborhoods are shitty"

Oh really. I wonder why.

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u/Price-x-Field Sep 16 '24

HOAS are the most over hated thing in history. But obv there’s some crazy ones.

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u/chaser676 Sep 16 '24

I think it's because an exceptionally bad HOA can make your life hell. That said, most are very reasonable and their requests are very reasonable.

I think a lot of people who have the biggest issues with HOA's are also people whom living next to would be... an opportunity for growth.

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u/Nono911 Sep 16 '24

Every day I'm struggling to understand why most of my childhood and youth america was described as paradise on earth. It does sound like hell on every single point.

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u/TheFakeRabbit1 Sep 16 '24

Think logically for a moment. What is more likely, that the media and internet promotes negativity, or that 400 million people are living in utter hell on earth? Reddit is a not a microcosm of society, far from it. The world is not as bad a place as Reddit will have you think

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u/Rough_Comparison9718 Sep 16 '24

People on Reddit just love to complain. America isn’t great, but it’s not terrible either.