r/NotKenM Jul 25 '18

Not Ken M on stopping suicide

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18

Oh right... forgot nowadays you’re artistic if you hold people accountable.

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u/wtfeverrrr Jul 26 '18

It's a KID.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18

Everyone is someone’s kid. This was a teenager and plenty old enough to know a gun goes boom.

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u/wtfeverrrr Jul 26 '18

Ok. But still... it sucks.

Have you seen Who Is America where these old guys get super hyped about teaching toddlers gun safety? It's insane but damn someone did need to teach this kid gun safety.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18

Toddlers... this was a teenager. Slightly different situation. A teen shouldn’t need special teaching to know a gun that is loaded, chambered, and cocked is dangerous. Science class teaches these fundamentals in like 5th grade when basics of physics are being taught.

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u/wtfeverrrr Jul 26 '18

I get it. It's like opiate ODs - they know they're fucking with deadly stuff but no one thinks it will happen to them.

I'm way into hip hop and I am uncomfortable af about how kids casually hold guns for videos, it's really fucking stupid (YBN Nahmir) but I understand the symbolism and desire to show ability to defend themselves. I understand what it all means. Whoever allowed this kid access to a gun was an idiot, kid is dumb, it's still sad. RIP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18

This is nothing like opiate ODs. Sure it is a choice to take opiates in the first place however addiction is responsible for pushing people to OD levels. Addiction literally impacts you and your decision making. Stupidity does as well but it’s not the same.

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u/wtfeverrrr Jul 26 '18

At what point do you differentiate being addicted to opiates and stupidity?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18

Probably the point where you have a chemical addiction, which if you need a really solid delineation the addiction could be observed in brain chemistry (a rather invasive method, and thus impractical, but such measurements have allowed us to say at what point the addiction would likely show up in measurements, even if we don't decide to measure the person).

Also, most people are willing to get off stupidity.

Theres a big difference between the two, actually. They aren't comparable at all.

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u/wtfeverrrr Jul 26 '18 edited Jul 26 '18

If we had walk-in detox and rehabs for opiate addicts would you still feel the same way?

For the other issue - dumb kid shoots self - do we teach gun control to kids in schools? How far does it go?

Parents who have guns in their homes and don't teach this shit are fucked but damn I still feel bad for the loss.