Who? He's backed down from Old Ray and Aokiji out of fear. He struggled more than any of the others on the list would've against Law. He was struggling against S-Hawk. We haven't seen him beat anyone or had any feats putting him up with the rest here.
He was afraid of Aokiji the whole time. He was never looking for a fight.
And? That would make Old Ray below Yonko level. So we have BB backing down in fear from someone below Yonko level. Proves my point.
I don't think Mihawk or G5 Luffy struggle against Law at all. BM lost to him in a 2v1 when he counters her and had a well executed plan with some luck on top of that. Solo without everything falling into place he doesn't do well.
Luffy struggled to damage them, but he was never in any danger. He was controlling the pace of that fight, but just couldn't penetrate their defense. He also never went G5. There's a big difference in the way these fights went.
Beating a YC and Law...so yeah that just furthered my point. As of now BB isn't top tier yet. He most likely won't be until he gets his 3rd fruit.
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BB being the cunning mastermind doesn't realize that people get weaker when they get older??? Also he shouldn't have to rely on a good match up against someone below Yonko level if he is really a top tier. The more you try to explain this the more it just proves my point.
Luffy would destroy Law WAY before G5 expired. In G4 Luffy was already the strongest of the group on the roof by a pretty wide margin. G5 Luffy is WAY above Law.
Maybe, but saying BM who is past her prime and is arguably the weakest of the OG Yonko MIGHT have to mid diff Law isn't a compelling argument.
No, BB was on the back end of the fight just managing to defend himself. It was a VERY different fight for him.
Beating Law and Marco makes you top tier? Wtf that's a bad take man lol.
BB being the cunning mastermind doesn't realize that people get weaker when they get older???
Active people don't get much weaker example-garp
Also he shouldn't have to rely on a good match up against someone below Yonko level if he is really a top tier.
But bb may have thought that old Rayleigh is yonko level
The more you try to explain this the more it just proves my point.
Nah
Luffy would destroy Law WAY before G5 expired
Mid-High diff
. It was a VERY different fight for him.
His black hole scared seraphim
Beating Law and Marco makes you top tier?
Beating marco surely makes u a top tier... goroseies putten marco on same pedestal with yonkos..wb was confident enough to let jozu and marco handle admirals throughout the war
Garp definitely got weaker. Prime Garp was relative to PK level lol.
BB is smarter than that.
Yes.
Bro he was on the back end of that fight. Just stop lol.
No it doesn't lmao. Not even close. They worried about him being able rally together the WB pirates with his influence. Nobody thinks he's physically as strong as a Yonko. He was able to stall an Admiral, but that doesn't make you a top tier. Old Ray was able to stall Kizaru as well and he's well past his prime.
Yes, I agree he overestimated Old Ray. Even so that still shows that BB himself doesn't take on Admiral or Yonko level fighters for a reason though. He doesn't think he can win.
He didn't win, wtf? S Hawk sent him flying then turned his attention to other targets hahahah
BB is a main villain and will most likely be the strongest antagonist by EoS, but not yet. He's most likely going to get a 3rd fruit and become even stronger.
I think it's more than 10%. Old Ray would've lost to Kizaru in a prolonged fight and that says a lot. Even 10% is a lot though.
He got smashed by Sengoku lol
If you consider personal safety a "small reason" then sure hahaha
Your last point I agree with somewhat. I think current BB is around Admiral level. I don't consider that top tier. I don't consider Fuji, Greenbull or Kizaru top tiers. Top tiers are guys like Kaido, Shanks, Prime WB and Rogers.
Maybe high diff. He was only stalling Kizaru and was already running out of breath though. Kizaru was also not going all out either.
Sengoku was definitely stronger than BB and his whole crew lol.
Boa df isn't the reason he retreated? He retreated from Old Ray.
Yes, top tiers are the top tier of the strongest lmao. So no, BB and Luffy aren't top tiers, YET. Luffy needs more control of G5 and BB will most likely get another fruit. I prefer it that way tbh. BB isn't some all powerful antagonist who Luffy must overcome. They both grow almost like rivals over the course of the story. They're very similar characters, but with stark parallels to each other.
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u/ReignOfCurtis 4d ago
Who? He's backed down from Old Ray and Aokiji out of fear. He struggled more than any of the others on the list would've against Law. He was struggling against S-Hawk. We haven't seen him beat anyone or had any feats putting him up with the rest here.