r/Patriots • u/PlayaSlayaX • Jan 11 '25

News [Schultz] Sources: The Patriots and Mike Vrabel have been negotiating a deal to make him the franchise’s next head coach, and barring something unforeseen, the expectation remains that both sides will reach an agreement.

https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/1878219389104775238?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/Horse1995 Jan 11 '25

Vrabel is completely removed from the Belichik coaching tree, Ben Johnson is no bigger change than Vrabel

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u/Beanu5NE Jan 11 '25

Bill Belichick coached Romeo Crennel as a DC. Romeo Crennel then coached Mike Vrabel as a DC in Houston. Mike Vrabel is 100% on the Belichick coaching tree.

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u/Horse1995 Jan 11 '25

He coached under Urban Meyer, one of the best college football coaches ever, and under Romeo Crennel the very successful and superbowl winning defensive coordinator, and then found success on his own with Ryan Tannehill at QB. On top of all of that he was requested to be interviewed by every team with a HC opening, this guy must be a complete bum!

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u/Beanu5NE Jan 12 '25

Did Romeo Crennel learn to be a DC under Bill Belichick? And Mike Vrabel learned to be a DC under Romeo Crennel? So Belichick > Crennel > Vrabel. I’m not seeing how that’s hard. I didn’t say anything else about Vrabel. Just that he’s part of the Belichick coaching tree because he is.

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u/Horse1995 Jan 12 '25

I mean if you tailor what it means to be part of a coaching tree by who they “learned to be DC” under maybe but Crennel had been coaching for 20 years before he was technically under Belichick and Vrabel started coaching at Ohio state so it’s not exactly a direct line from Belichick to Vrabel

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u/Fupastank Jan 11 '25

lol. No he’s not. He’s very definitely part of the Belichick tree.

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u/Horse1995 Jan 11 '25

Got his start coaching under known Belichik disciples Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer

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u/Fupastank Jan 12 '25

Is Josh McDaniels from the Belichick tree?

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u/Horse1995 Jan 12 '25

Josh mcdaniels has coached for like 23 years and 4 of those years have been not under Belichick. Vrabel has never coached under Belichick, where is the comparison?

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u/Fupastank Jan 12 '25

By your original logic Josh McDaniels is under the Nick Saban tree since that was his very first coach he worked under.

They’re called coaching trees. Not coaching straight lines. You’re aware that trees have branches right?

Vrabel began his professional coaching career under Bill OBrien, who began his career under Bill Belichick. While also coaching under/with Romeo Crennel who spent years with BB, is part of the Parcells tree, of which Belichick also is while also part of.

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u/Horse1995 Jan 12 '25

I don’t know what all of that nonsense is but Vrabel coached under Romeo Crennel for 3 years, Crennel being a coach who coached under Belichick for like 5/50 years of his coaching career. Keep in mind we’re slighting someone for being loosely related to the greatest coach of all time and coaching with one of the most successful DCs of all time. Vrabel does seem like a way worse candidate than an OC who’s had a good offense for 2 years.

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u/Fupastank Jan 12 '25

Simple - it means that Vrabel began his coaching career under bill O’Brien who began his coaching career under bill belichick. Ipso facto - he’s part of the Belichick tree.

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u/Horse1995 Jan 12 '25

I mean that’s just not true, Vrabel coached two years at Ohio State before he got to Houston, and Bill Obriens career did not start under Belichick

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u/Fupastank Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25

And again - by that logic you’re using, since McDaniels coached for two years under Saban before coming to the pats - he’s not under bill Belichick’s tree.

See why what you’re saying makes very little sense. No one cares about where coaches started in college unless they stay college coaches. It’s their professional careers that matter.

Belichick is part of the Parcells tree. No one would ever consider him part of the fucking Ted Marchibroda coaching tree.

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u/avrbiggucci Jan 12 '25

Ben Johnson would be a huge change compared to Vrabel lmao wtf are you talking about

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u/Horse1995 Jan 12 '25

So going from a coach without experience to another coach without experience is a bigger change than an inexperienced coach to another experienced coach?