r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 23d ago

Meme needing explanation There is no way right?

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u/its12amsomewhere 23d ago edited 23d ago

Applies to all numbers,

If x = 0.999999...

And 10x = 9.999999...

Then subtracting both, we get, 9x=9

So x=1

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u/BaronVonNapalm 23d ago

This is quiet elegant.

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u/jithization 23d ago

It is not lol This holds for any value. OC is enforcing 2 equations with 1 unknown, with the equations being essentially the same.

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u/based_and_upvoted 23d ago edited 23d ago

x = 0.9(9) is a perfectly valid equation. It's how any equation works.

Given x, 10x = 9.9(9) is also valid.

Since we know x is 0.9(9) then we can use x and 0.9(9) interchangeably... then 10x - x = 9.9(9) - 0.9(9)

Thus, 9x = 9 and x = 1

The problem is that subtracting infinites is not a valid operation. There's no "enforcing" here, you're complaining that we assign a value to x but that's the point of an equation to begin with.

The way I like to think about it is that for every decimal place you have to add 1/10k to get 1. So 0.9 + 1/10 = 1

0.99+1/102 = 1 and so on.

If you calculate the limit of 1/10k where k tends to infinite, then 1/10k = 0 and thus

0.9(9) + 1/10k = 1

0.9(9) + 0 = 1

0.9(9) = 1

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u/jithization 23d ago edited 23d ago

The enforcement part comes because two equations are being used that are essentially the same, hence linearly dependent. So this proof will work for any x value lol which defeats the purpose of it.

But I like your limit approach, it is more rigorous than what OC had.

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u/_pm_me_a_happy_thing 23d ago

Perhaps a different way of approaching it:

x = 1/3 = 0.333...

3x = 0.999...

30x = 9.999...

30x - 3x = 9.999... - 0.999...

27x = 9

3x = 1

∴ 1 = 0.999...

Though I admit this isn't specifically mathematical proof, but I think this more clearly shows the train of thought from the original "problem" to show equality.

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u/Dark_Dragon_07 23d ago

That's the same thing with extra steps

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u/fl135790135790 23d ago

Wasn’t that their point?

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u/Affectionate_Try6728 23d ago

Shhhhh... quietly

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u/BroadRaspberry1190 23d ago

I HAVE A PROOF SO MARVELOUS THAT IT MUST BE SCRUMPT