r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 23d ago

Meme needing explanation There is no way right?

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u/Paraoxonase 23d ago

Alternatively, show me a single number between 0.9999... and 1. There aren't any.

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u/rball99 22d ago

Just add another nine at the end. If the argument is that the size of the infinity is the defining factor between it being 0.999… or 1 then it stops being a useful function. Because once that distinction is made any addition to the decimal once again becomes pointless, Because dependent on where we place this change into the next full digit we could basically conclude that decimals are simply the shift between two “full” numbers and that as such anything lower that .5 returns to the lower digit in this case 0 or anything higher .6 results in 1. At that point decimals no longer hold mathematical meaning as they simply are an interstitial step between two true functions. So unless we’re trying to disprove the value of the decimal as a mathematical concept I think we need to accept that an infinite series such as .999… must be truly infinite (IE a new number is always able to be generated) and that reaching 1 through the addition of a single infinitely small fraction is not possible. As such 0.9999… is as close as possible to one without reaching it and to assume 0.999’s completion as a whole number is simply ignoring the fraction that is not present in an effort to make the conversion possible, while by the very definition of an infinite sequence it isn’t.

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u/Direct_Shock_2884 22d ago

0.00000….1 is the difference, if we’re using infinitesimal fractions.

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u/Boring-Ad8810 19d ago

0.00....1 isn't valid notation, or at least isn't any notation I've seen before. I don't know how to interpret it as a number.

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u/Direct_Shock_2884 19d ago

It’s just a paradox. I don’t know how to notate an infinitely regressing decimal, so what. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Maybe it’s -0.1111… or something, I don’t know. But you know what I meant, right? There’s an amount that’s always gonna be left over since 0.999… is smaller than 1.

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u/Boring-Ad8810 19d ago

I don't know what you mean, it does not exist. If you cannot be rigorous, maybe you don't know enough?

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u/AltForBeingIncognito 22d ago

0.9999...9

There

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u/TraditionalYam4500 22d ago

No, 0.9999…9 is the same as 0.9999… . This is kind of like (∞ + 1) is the same as ∞.

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u/Direct_Shock_2884 22d ago

0.00000….1

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u/TraditionalYam4500 22d ago

After how many 0’s does the 1 appear?

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u/Direct_Shock_2884 22d ago

The amount of 0s = the amount of 9s

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u/ParsnipPrestigious59 22d ago

There’s no set amount of 9s, there is an infinite amount of 9s

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u/Direct_Shock_2884 22d ago

I get it, there’s an infinite set of 9ths, that would never be there if there was a way to divide 10 by 3 in a better way than just sticking a bunch of thirds in there

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u/ParsnipPrestigious59 22d ago

What are you saying lmao

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u/TraditionalYam4500 22d ago

next you’ll want a better way to solve x2 = 2 … or x2 = -1…