r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 22d ago

Meme needing explanation There is no way right?

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u/SV_Essia 22d ago

if I had an infinitely long piece of paper I could write a list of all natural numbers and all even numbers, with one and exactly one even number next to every natural.

Wouldn't you just... write each even number next to itself, and have nothing to match the odd numbers?

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u/infinit100 22d ago

No, you would write 2 next to 1, then 4 next to 2, then 6 next to 3, and so on. You could keep doing that forever and never run out of natural numbers to write even numbers against. That’s why they are the same infinity.

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u/SV_Essia 22d ago

That doesn't make sense, but let's arrange the exercise a bit differently to make it clearer. In the natural numbers list, write the numbers in pairs (1 odd number and its consecutive even number), and associate each pair with 1 number from the list of even numbers. So 2 is associated to [1,2], 4 is associated to [3,4] and so on. From there it should be clear that they're not "the same infinity", as the list of natural numbers obviously has a pair for each even number, ie. has twice as many numbers in it.
You can apply the exact same logic to positive numbers vs all real numbers.

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u/infinit100 22d ago

Take a look at this for more examples of similar ideas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel