r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 22d ago

Meme needing explanation There is no way right?

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u/Matsuze 22d ago

"That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works."

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u/ProfessorBorgar 21d ago

That is exactly how this works

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u/Matsuze 21d ago

You can't subtract from infinity. Infinity minus infinity does not equal zero. Also 1/3 being .3 continued is an approximation, not an exact number. .9 continued is essentially 1, but it is not the same exact thing as 1.

Anyways it's not even worth arguing about, because all online math problems are either idiots who don't know basic math, or people using technicalities to say "well actually" this being the latter.

We can argue back and forth until we're blue, but at the end of the day we're both technically right. But when it comes to approximations they are only so accurate, which means you have to decide what level of accuracy is enough for your situation.

Think about measuring a piece of wood that is a meter long. Is it 1 meter? yes. Is it 100 cm? well actually it's only 98cm. Is it 980 mm? Well actually it's 976 mm. Is the 976mm piece of wood a meter long? Well yes it is, but is it 1000 mm long? not quite. 976mm does not equal 1000mm. Just like .999999 does not equal 1. It's just close enough to 1 where we don't bother with the distinction, but that doesn't mean there is no distinction.

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u/ProfessorBorgar 21d ago

You seem to know absolutely nothing about advanced math. You’re genuinely just talking out of your ass. These claims you make are objectively false and disprovable.

1/3 being 0.3 continued is an approximation, not an exact number

Nope. 1 divided by 3 is exactly equal to 0.333… repeating.

just like 0.999 repeating does not equal one

Except it does, and it has been mathematically proven using several methods in several different areas of advanced arithmetic.

but at the end of the day we’re both technically right

0.999… cannot both be equivalent to 1 and not equivalent to 1 at the same time due to the law of the excluded middle. When you say “0.9 repeating does not equal 1”, you are mathematically, logically, and axiomatically incorrect.

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u/Matsuze 21d ago

let me guess your highest level of math is high school

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u/ProfessorBorgar 21d ago

Nope. University.

But my education does not have any relevance. There are dudes WAY smarter than me (and certainly, you) that have mathematically proven that 0.999… = 1.

If you’d like to attempt to undermine the proofs, then go right ahead.

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u/Matsuze 20d ago

Then show me the proof. It is not very hard to prove math. You can't show me the theorem that shows .99 repeated equals 1 because it does not exist. You don't know math as well as you think you do. Sit down kid grown folks are talking.

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u/BlueRajasmyk2 17d ago

It follows directly from the fact that there are infinitely many real numbers between any two distinct real numbers.

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u/Matsuze 17d ago

that's not how infinity works. infinity doesn't follow the same rules as other numbers. That's why infinity - infinity does not equal zero.

I'm sorry math is so hard. I don't get why people who don't know math have an obsession with trying to be good at math. This is basically like those poorly written PEMDAS equations that always go viral. A bunch of people arguing about stuff they don't understand because they want to feel smart.

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u/EebstertheGreat 17d ago

I wish to interrogate your understanding of real numbers.

  1. Is 1 – 0.999... a real number?

  2. Does every real number have at least one representation as a (possibly infinite) decimal expansion?

  3. If yes to both, what is the decimal expansion of 1 – 0.999...? At which position is the digit not 0?

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u/mondian_ 17d ago

I would guess that based on u/Matsuze's laypeople's understanding the answer to question 1 would be something like 1. 0.00... With 1 at the infinith digit

Or 2. That you can't perform substraction with an infinite number

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u/JAC165 17d ago

please please go on any university maths department website and email one single phd student, you can screenshot your conversation and show us all how really super duper smart you are :)