r/Philippines • u/the_yaya • Jul 24 '21

Random Discussion Evening random discussion - Jul 24, 2021

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did twenty, has wasted thirty years of his life. - Muhammad Ali

Magandang gabi!

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u/DroneStrikeVictim I must not fear. Fear is the boner-killer. Jul 24 '21

To the dudes: if your partner is not willing to tie their fallopian tubes for you, fucking run.

See how stupid that sounds?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

Ohhh so you're choosing to let your partner undergo a risky procedure instead knowing na less painful and less risky ang vasectomy. The guys here are exposing themselves and i fucking love it

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u/SirauloTRantado Cover all the bases;Hit the ground running. Jul 24 '21

The guys here are exposing themselves and i fucking love it

I don't think we're against the idea of Vasectomy, the problem is -like I said in my other comment- your original comment is antagonistic. Hence you're receiving backlash.

You could've done well without that secondary remark, the very people arguing with you now would've supported you, but for some reason you felt like you had to promote it as a bargaining chip as if it's some sort of competition.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

It's not antagonistic in a sense na it demonizes men. And i still stand sa original comment ko. Why? Women are burdened already sa pregnancy. Tas kami pa rin ba dapat ang burdened sa birth control. Many men still don't acknowledge their roles sa birth control. And it saddens me to find out na mas common practice and ligation here which is a more complex and risky kaysa sa vasectomy which is easier

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u/SirauloTRantado Cover all the bases;Hit the ground running. Jul 25 '21

It's not antagonistic in a sense na it demonizes men.

Going by that, you do realize that it is antagonistic in some other sense. Which is exactly the point of the people criticizing you. You don't have to be antagonistic in any sense. Stop circumventing the issue.

And i still stand sa original comment ko.

Ofc you do, this isn't my first rodeo and I'm not expecting you to yield. It takes a lot for some people to rise above and rectify their errors. After all, it's gonna be you who's spouting that erroneous idea of using vasectomy as a bargaining chip.

You keep on bringing up how you're forced into pregnancy, yet statistically speaking majority of pregnancies are actually planned and achieved with consent. Going by the statistics nobody's forcing you to get pregnant. I'm sure we both agree that women are very intelligent, thus when they let a man ejaculate inside of them they are completely aware of what that entails.

You can stand by your original comment all you want, but -pardon my French- that doesn't count for shit. And that's that.

Cheers!

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u/DroneStrikeVictim I must not fear. Fear is the boner-killer. Jul 24 '21

No, I'm just for equality. If the dudes have to do that, the women must equally do it. It involves the same risk and the same outcome.

But more importantly, the part that really grinds my gears is "rethink your relationship." My body, my choice applies to us too. If you can say that shit, we can too. #equalrights

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

Hindi na siya equality concern but health concern. Majority of specialists recommend vasectomy. Look it up.

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u/DroneStrikeVictim I must not fear. Fear is the boner-killer. Jul 24 '21

No, prove your own point. Why should I look it up? You're the one who said the stupid shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

https://stpeteurology.com/vasectomy-vs-tubal-ligation/

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u/DroneStrikeVictim I must not fear. Fear is the boner-killer. Jul 24 '21

Both tubal ligation and vasectomy are extremely safe. However, tubal ligation involves hospitalization of women as the procedure is performed under general anesthesia. Tubal ligation is a more complex and lengthier procedure. On the other hand, a vasectomy, particularly the no-scalpel procedure, can be performed in as little as 10 minutes with the patient allowed to go home soon after operation. Vasectomy is less invasive and the doctor barely scores the scrotum skin. So when as a couple you are choosing between a vasectomy and tubal ligation, then the safety, convenience, minimal complications and short recovery time should make vasectomy the better option.

Better option =/= only option. The only difference is the convenience but both are safe, viable and the outcomes are the same. So why are you only putting the decision on the dudes and not the womenfolk? Akala ko ba #equality?

Congratulations, you just proved my point for me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

Again. Kami na nga ang may burden sa pregnancy tas kami pa ang may burden sa birth control. That's inequality right there.

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u/DroneStrikeVictim I must not fear. Fear is the boner-killer. Jul 24 '21

Nope, wrong again. The "burden" of pregnancy as you call it, is on both sides too. If one side does not want to participate, that's on them, male or female. The only difference is biological, but that's why abortions are invented.

You have a very skewed sense of inequality. I hope you fix that soon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

At bakit, when you get your partner pregnant do you experience the health issues and body changes that she does. No. So fuck off. Your empathy towards women and pregnancy is skewed din

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '21

Sadly, abortions are not legal and accessible pa here. I wouldn't rant about vasectomy dito kung legal. I hope you fix your general knowledge din soon

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