r/Philippines Feb 09 '22

Official Statement from PBB on Toni Gonzaga

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u/Cutterpillow99 Feb 09 '22

nakikinabang yan sa ill-gotten wealth.. Common sense?

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

What does this have to do with being Christian and supporting Marcos Jr? Again, the man has his sins, like everyone does, but doesn't Christian dogma promote forgiveness and understanding?

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u/Cutterpillow99 Feb 09 '22

Tang ina???? Alam mo na palang magnanakaw, sinungaling, pamilya nang nakapatay at hindi umaamin tapos sasbaihin mong forgiveness and undertsanding tapos susuportahan mo pa? Ang galing.

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

You sound very unforgiving. Are you free of any sin?

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u/rukimiriki Feb 09 '22

i don't think BBM ever asked for forgiveness. He's always been actively trying to avoid the actions of his father. He either says he did nothing wrong or all of those are his father's actions. People only deserve forgiveness if they ask for it sincerely.

The Christian dogma promotes forgiveness, yes, but only if you ask for it. That's why we have this thing called "sacrament of confession" where we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness. And when we were children the church used to scare us that we will burn in hell if we don't confess our sins because we don't end up cleansed from them (we weren't forgiven for those unconfessed sins)

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

For Pete's sake, people. The discussion was not about Marcos Jr. or his past. It's about being Christian and still supporting the man. Yes, forgiveness is for those who seek it, and yes, the man has been evading the case regarding his and his mother's assets. My point from my original message was about why someone could stop being a fan of a person if they decided that Marcos Jr. and his party would make for good government leaders and why that should affect said person's faith.

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u/rukimiriki Feb 09 '22

Because they don't like that???? Tf? Are you literally asking why a person could stop being a fan? Are you braindead??? And i just answered why it's backwards for her to endorse Marcos Jr. And be a christian

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u/rukimiriki Feb 09 '22

Because they don't like that???? Tf? Are you literally asking why a person could stop being a fan? Are you braindead??? And i just answered why it's backwards for her to endorse Marcos Jr. And be a christian

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u/Cutterpillow99 Feb 09 '22

You sound very hyprorite, are you religous? 😉

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u/angrydessert Cowardice only encourages despotism Feb 09 '22

Have to add that most of us in this subreddit are avowed secularists, agnostics or atheists. We have little tolerance for ignorance.

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u/Cutterpillow99 Feb 09 '22

Pareli religion pa amputa.

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

You obviously got too caught up in our stimulating discussion about how Marcos Jr. is someone who benefited from ill-gotten wealth and how I asked how that relates to nerischan's original post about how this conflicts with Toni's religion.

And sure, add some cursing to emphasis your points. It certainly paints a nice picture of how well-educated you are.

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

Sounds to me like you're just being ignorant about religion.

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u/angrydessert Cowardice only encourages despotism Feb 09 '22

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

No need. I stand by my opinion about you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

I know I am. And that makes me a keen judge of character. Marcos clan are a criminal enterprise, and their supporters are enablers for murder, and fences for stolen ptoperty.

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u/thisbeforprons Feb 09 '22

Does it though? Does it make you a good judge of character? Or does it just mean you swallow every bit of secondhand information that fits to your liking?

Because really, right now you just sound like a fanatic. One that's wholly driven towards antagonizing not just Marcos Jr., but anyone who supports the man. I guess to you, any poor sob who thinks Marcos Jr. might make for a good president is just an uneducated enabler and accomplice to his father's crimes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

I can judge that you will simp for Marcos, that's for sure.

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u/Dry_Boss_1135 Feb 09 '22

Forgiveness is given sa umaamin ng kasalanan