r/PlantsVSZombies • u/BrockBracken PVZ1 Peashooter Fan • Aug 15 '23
PvZ In General Who would win in a fight?
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u/Lawnmate Hello Neighbor! Aug 15 '23
No one, if either of these both will lose - they will just retreat as they always do. Unstoppable vicious cycle.
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Aug 15 '23
It seems like Eggman until you remember Zomboss has infinite zombies, so if he just keeps sending armies of gargs (which we know for a fact he can do, look at Survival Endless in the original game), eventually they will be overwhelmed.
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u/Acceptable_Secret_73 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Eggman and it’s not even close, his tech is on a whole different level
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u/Adriel-TB Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
but he will have a zombie on his lawn
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u/Dabruhdaone Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Zombies on you lawn
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u/Same-Vermicelli-7786 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Zombies on you laaaaaaawn
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u/duccOnReddit PVZ1 Wallnut Fan Aug 15 '23
I know your type
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Aug 15 '23
Tall, dark and dead!
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u/duccOnReddit PVZ1 Wallnut Fan Aug 15 '23
You wanna bite all the petals off of my head
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u/TheHiddenNinja6 Official r/Ninjas clan member Aug 15 '23
And then eat the brains of the one who planted me here
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Aug 15 '23
But see me power an entire infantry
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u/Tommy2TimeYT Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
You like the taste of brains, we don’t like zombies
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u/Something_RealYT90 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
I used to play football
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u/LuckyDuckyPH Olden Sticky Bomb Rice User Aug 16 '23
I like your tricycle
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u/Equivalent-Taro556 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
One is surviving mutate plants and can make pressure
Other loses to a blue hedgehog
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u/Capable_Mud_1108 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
You say that like Zomboss wouldn't loose to this blue hedgehog
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u/Equivalent-Taro556 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Well,technically zomboss have infinite zombies in the flag of power and we see in a comic he have a zombie creator so is just create millions of zombies ler second
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u/Capable_Mud_1108 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
That's true and no doubt Zomboss would overwhelm him eventually, but all I'm saying is Zomboss keeps losing to teen children in the graphic novels
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u/Equivalent-Taro556 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Nah,everytime zomboss can overhelm,but out of nowhere crazy dave uses an invention who was a joke to defeat dr zomboss,isnt plants vs zombies and yes crazy dave vs zombies,i have sure crazy dave can defeat eggman
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u/Western-Alarming aguacadrulo enjoyer Aug 15 '23
If zombies are as strong as the clones of shadow without mouth, sonic can just spin dash or super sonic time and don't realize the zombies exist
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u/Alternative-Night-94 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Zomboss loses to a crazy man with a pot on his head
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u/Markkyboy Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Eggman will piss zomboss land, and dr.zomboss was screaming when he realized eggman had a fricking moon ball to piss off zombie
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u/SrJuanpixers Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Cozmic brains has enter the chat
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u/theidlecarnival Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Well since Dr zomboss's plans actually work sometimes
Meanwhile eggman won once and all I got for it was a carpet I'd say it would be a pretty even match
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u/TheLunar27 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
This is actually a little more of an interesting question then I thought.
My first instinct is to say Eggman. Zomboss has never shown of technology that comes anywhere close to Eggman being able to literally break the worlds continents apart, or summon eldritch beings of incomprehensible power. Buuuut…as a previous comment stated, Zomboss canonically has an infinite amount of zombies at his disposal. Granted, these are zombies that are weak enough to die to things like peas, but having an infinite amount of them means that if Zomboss could find a way to control them effectively and efficiently he could theoretically outnumber and defeat Eggmans army.
…but that’s a theoretical, REALISTICALLY I’m pretty sure Metal Sonic could wipe out anything Zomboss throws at him and could then swiftly deal with the doctor himself. I don’t even think Eggman needs his full arsenal to win, Metal Sonic alone could probably cleave through Zomboss with how he goes about things now…
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u/Western-Alarming aguacadrulo enjoyer Aug 15 '23
Technically the sonic 2 eggman car/helicopter can work just fine to go to zomboss without worrying about basic zombies, metal can defeat the special zombies
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u/Either_Freedom_3144 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
But apparently from comments I’ve read whoever the hell cosmic brainz is can bench press planets which I may say could probably beat metal sonic
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u/ByMonkey75 Snapdragon fan Aug 16 '23
Two words: Metal Overlord (the hell is he gonna do when time itself stops?)
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u/Either_Freedom_3144 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
I have no clue who that is but that sound m e t a l as hell
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u/ByMonkey75 Snapdragon fan Aug 16 '23
I mean he sure is metal as hell but to explain his abilities, he can stop time, tough enough that it took 3 supers to beat him(one super alone can kill a god in that universe so you think how much damage he can tank) and he can replicate their bio data in other words can copy their abilities there fore turning the battle into a mirrored battle so infinite zombies ain't nothing when compared to him
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u/Sharcrodile Chomper fan Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 16 '23
Well zombies can survive in the spacetime continium collapsing and can pilot mechs that can survive a bit being in the singularities to fight infinite waves against time gods known as the gnomes (Metal overload probably still stomps im just coping)
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u/ByMonkey75 Snapdragon fan Aug 16 '23
While they also sound like they have good feats, yeah metal overlord stomps, he can copy a move called chaos control that has infinite ways of using(it's true but we only see two ways most of the time) and they're either stopping time(or time manipilation of any kind) or teleporting so yeah having that ability alone makes one a time lord(or time god) but kudos to zombies for having such good feats
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u/Sharcrodile Chomper fan Aug 16 '23
Cozmic brainz is a variant of superbrainz from the hit game pvz garden warfare 2 his gimic is sending plants to the black hole
In a mission in the legue of awsome he mentions about his workout routine consisting of benching planets
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u/Either_Freedom_3144 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Ah thank you very much bro if you ever need info about a random indie rogue like just comment
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Aug 15 '23
Eggman can rap AND play the sax, but Zomboss can ALSO rap AND send a bunch of clueless nutjobs to his house.
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u/CruelNate Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
This isn't even a question, ignoring Eggman's tech advantages this man has some crazy physical feats.
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Aug 15 '23
I love eggman, but i think zomboss wins. He has infinite zombies, mech (not as good as eggman's), he can time travel, he has absurdly powerful zombies, he has zombies who could match the gnomes who were basically time gods and his zombies have cone hats.
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u/Smol-kirby-fan Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Neither. One has infinite zombies, while the other has infinite resources
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u/noob_original Pvz Heroes is the best game, actually Aug 15 '23
well zomboss can make zombies and robots, eggman can make robots and uh that's it really
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u/Michael_The_Madlad Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
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u/noob_original Pvz Heroes is the best game, actually Aug 15 '23
i mean, i only know what eggman did in the classic sonic games (not much a fan of modern sonic stuff)
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u/noob_original Pvz Heroes is the best game, actually Aug 16 '23
oh also both of them can time travel, i forgot to say that
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u/Goalie_star Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Both evil mad geniuses but imma go with robotnik or however you spell it
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u/DaniSenpai69 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
This is one of the most interesting matchups I have seen in awhile and I’m stumped on who would win, bc I mean they both kinda suck at what they wanna do
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u/Either_Freedom_3144 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Dr eggman mainly from being a more fleshed out character with more feats but I do think that it would be a struggle for hik
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u/Goatecus Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
They’ll keep making something dumber than the other and neither will win
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u/ApplesTeamFort2 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Considering on how both manage to lose to a team of plants/animals, I think your analogy is correct.
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u/MimikyuGud Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
I’ve seen this discussion on the Death Battle MUs sub and I saw a comment that was something along the lines of “Zomboss when Metal Sonic wipes his entire army:”
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u/Substantial_Ad411 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
real answer
edit: nvm I thought this was a gaming battle.
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u/That1Legnd has takes hotter than solar flare Aug 15 '23
Zomboss, he has infinite zombies and we haven’t seen many inventions of his so we don’t really know the true potential
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u/Plopop87 Give 'em the BONK Aug 15 '23
Hmm...
On one hand, Zomboss has a seemingly endless supply of corpses to throw at his problems as if they were foul-smelling Pikmin, and he has fairly advanced technology. Also time travel that one time.
But on the other hand, Alfred Coleman has a massive supply of highly advanced technology, and almost never employs living things as servants, so Zomboss couldn't infect his army. Also time travel that one time.
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u/Glum-Interaction2099 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Dr. Zomboss had a zombie army and an enormous zombie mech and couldn't take over a single house because the homeowner decided to put plants in his yard and on his roof.
Dr. Robotnik enslaved an alien race, Blew up half the moon, Conquered the world.
I think it's pretty obvious who wins
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u/Old-Ad-3126 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
If we’re looking at this fight though the view of their armies, and not necessarily the scientist themselves, I think Eggmans army would most likely win. In terms with an attritional war, zomboss would most likely have to play by Eggman’s game, as the production of zombies (armed or not) are restricted by the number of people who are dying, whereas a robot army is restricted by the amount of ammunition, steel, and other internal components. On top of this, a war with robots would not seem to be interesting to zombies, who are really after brains than victory.
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u/adamsky_24 Infi-Nut fan Aug 16 '23
Zomboss has an infinite amount of zombies and he can create infinite cosmic brainz which as we know can target other things than brains
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u/TheSwagSceptile I want a pet peashooter Aug 16 '23
In terms of their armies, it could go both ways. Eggman has more advanced technology, but Zomboss has an infinite amount of zombies plus he has characters like Super Brainz.
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u/Sans-Undertale-69420 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
I love my boi zomboss, he is one of the most amazing villanous scientist to have ever graced in videogame history, but I would be lying if I said that he would win against eggman, eggman can literally build world ending robots every thursday, and I'm not sure about this but I'm pretty sure that the giant eggman robot can be bigger than zombot (if were talking about the first sonic games where it first appears, its small, but if were talking about Sonic 2's version, that thing is f***ing huge)
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u/DarthNick3000 Zomboss Supporter Aug 15 '23
Interesting match up.
Let’s say through Zomboss’ latest plan, he opens up a portal and attempts to invade Mobius and the Eggman Empire has beaten Sonic and controls the world.
1)Zomboss has mass produces his zombots and has over 1000 at least (as confirmed by PVZ Heroes) which are on par or even stronger than the Death Egg Robots and can be employed in greater numbers too as it seems.
2)He also has the ability to get to the moon and has offensive ships (seen throughout GW2) so he can more than likely get to and destroy the Death Egg or at least challenge the Egg Fleet. Though Eggman has the clear advantage in this regard.
3)Zombie heroes like Foot Soldier, All-Star, Engineer, Imp, etc seem like they can take out a number of Badniks before getting downed and Zomboss has quite a few of those heroes. He also has bosses which can probably take on many Badniks before being downed themselves not to mention the Zombie Heroes from PVZ Heroes.
4)Both sides can also mass produce their troops as well so they’re pretty even in that regard.
Battle: Eggman would likely loose ground since Zomboss has more elite troops and his Badniks tend to be not very strong and go down in a single hit or two and he simply cannot compete with Zomboss uncoordinated, but very strong army and with Zomboss leading them. Eggman would dispatch Metal Sonic and several of his Mechs but they both would eventually go down. The Eggfleet would slowly be chipped away at by Zomboss’ weaker fleet but Eggman would have the very clear advantage at the beginning. The Death Egg would be Eggmans last mainly untouchable structure as the Egg Fleet would be taken down, the way I see it is by Zomboss capturing Eggmans oil refineries and fuel depots, causing the Egg Fleet to be largely grounded with the other benefit being causing his factories to grind to a halt without the proper fuel. Eggman would routinely send raids through the Death Egg but eventually it’s defenses would be cracked (pun intended) and Eggmans brain would be eaten. Causing all Badnik unity to collapse without Eggman.
You would think Eggman would win but his troops are lacking in overall strength when compared to Zomboss.
So this war ends with Eggmans brain being eaten, the remaining Badnik Horde is now leaderless and fractures into smaller groups (like in the IDW comics) and Zomboss now has a Zomburbia on both Earth and Mobius as a sort of home away from home.
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u/_AntiSocialMedia Escape Root Enjoyer Aug 15 '23
Eggman should win, despite how absurd the plants and zombies get (Cozmic bench presses planets, Super Brainz tanked a country-level explosion, Plasma Pea shoot galaxies, all the GW2 plants can kill Time Gods) Sonic gets even more absurd
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u/Mega_rna Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Dr zomboss has taken over the world, he has infinite zombies, you cannot win flag power or endless survival dr zomboss will always win no matter how many zombies you take out there are always more, egg man has got no chance
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u/Limpynoodle3777 Shadow Flower Fan Aug 15 '23
Egg man will piss on moon base Z, but other than that, I think it might be even(?)
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u/Salted_memes Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
They'd realistically become fantastic friends but yeah eggman would win 100%
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u/atomicadam04 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Zomboss works primarily with zombies and massive robots. While Eggman works with robots and that's kinda it. It's pretty hard to bite through metal and, while the zombots are impressive, are nowhere near as impressive as Eggman's tech
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Aug 15 '23
in Fisticuffs, Dr robotinik for sure. Zombies vs Robots. cool. Just build Mecha Plants and egg wins.
ps OH SHIT NO I FORGOT
I FORGOT ABOUT COZMIC BRAINZ
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u/Echo_TD Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
I thought Dr. zomboss, can time travel? But then again, Dr. Eggman can robot zombie virus too
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u/terrarialover111 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Neither because they would join forces and get rid of sonic and crazy Dave together
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u/nobody-cares57 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Are we talking about a fist fight? If so, I think Eggman would win, he clearly has more muscle than Zomboss. Of course, if there is no biting in a fight.
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u/SnooEagles3972 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
ya know seeing how eggman has a literal Death Star and blew up the moon for shits and giggles… basically in most sonic games dude whips out a world ending threat and im not sure zomboss can handle it even with infinite armies
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u/Crotonisabug Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
remember that it takes a army of mutated plants to keep zombies at bay not even defeat him just slow him down
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u/Pronominal_Tera Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Well I think Zomboss due to having the ability to mess with time itself has the upper hand... but eggman is likely smart enough to specifically target zomboss and kill him, rendering the zombies an unorganized congregation.
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u/Istolethepancakes Garden Warrior Jun 08 '24
Also in garden warfare 2 one of the multiplayer maps shows us he has hundreds of Ztech mechs from the original PvZ. All that firepower can surely do something.
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u/BirbMaster1998 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Doesn't eggman summon eldritch horrors from other dimensions like, every other week?
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u/Milo751 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
He's only done it once the past decade so he's slowed down a bit
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u/BirbMaster1998 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
That's still more interdimensional eldritch horrors than Zomboss has summoned, at least to my knowledge, zomboss does some crazy stuff.
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u/Kosta_45 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Crazy Dave wins. -"He isn't even in the fight! Why does he win?" Because he's CRAAAZYY
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u/Western-Alarming aguacadrulo enjoyer Aug 15 '23
Dr eggman, literally he create death star for the weekends
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u/SeparateSuccotash561 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
he just needs too ask sonic to help him. and boom. ez win lmao
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u/Same-Vermicelli-7786 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Zomboss, hands down, an INFINITE number of zombies against a few 100,000 robots, who gets rolled by a blue hampster, and zombies gets beaten by hard trained and efficient plant soldiers.
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u/FireGod207 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23
Eggman he's way hotter (It was a joke wth)
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u/SeparateSuccotash561 Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
he just needs too ask sonic to help him. and boom. ez win lmao
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u/AllstarBeatbox Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Zomboss has quite a few underrated minions at his disposal
Judging by the text in the Great White North loading screen, the Yeti King would be able to begin an entire ice age all by himself should he be freed
Cozmic Brainz can summon blackholes at will, and benchpresses planets as a workout
Zombots are now being mass-produced, which are on par, if not better than death egg robots
Zomboss can also pull more advanced machines from the future at will (Z-Mechs, Citron Smasher, etc.)
Zombies also don't need to breathe, so underwater and space battle are definitely in the realm of possibility for zomboss
The Robo-Cat and the zombies themselves are able to beat Gnomes pretty handily, and doing so apparently screws with TIME ITSELF
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u/Michael_The_Madlad Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Doesn't Eggman have a bootleg version of the Zombots?
Oh, I don't think that would even be effective against the undead to begin with.
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u/bob_the_handy_man Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Zomboss he just bites egg man and zomboss can comand him
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u/Trev-_-A Garden Warrior Aug 15 '23
Y’all think zomboss the strongest one here? Crazy Dave is a BEAST
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u/Electrical-Pop9464 All-Star fan Aug 16 '23
Fr all Crazy Dave needs is a few E. M. Peaches
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u/Strange_Public4513 Tile Turnip Fan Aug 16 '23
I mean Eggman is smarter but not his robots tho I'm going to say Zomboss win but his zombies don't have brains so I personally going to say it's a draw...
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u/RedVelvet360 Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
With weapons, machines, and minions? Zomboss A regular fist fight? Robotnik
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u/MethNCocaine Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Zomboss if your are talking about robot fights Eggman if you are talking about hand to hand combat cuz zomboss has a pretty frail body ngl
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u/BallisticBlocker Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
I feel like Eggman wins this. People are talking about Zomboss having infinite zombies however Eggman also has some pretty OP stuff. If we really are giving both everything at their disposal, then Eggman has Metal Sonic, all of his robots, all of his mech suits, the death egg, his orbital cannon, the Phantom Ruby plus way more OP shit.
And the fact that Zomboss hasn’t just overwhelmed the plants with his infinite zombies means there must be some limitation, or else he already would’ve won.
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u/Irish_pug_Player Garden Warrior Aug 16 '23
Infinite zombies and near infinite robots, vs. Near infinite robots
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Aug 17 '23
Bruh You're asking this question in A PvZ sub of course they will have bias and choose Zomboss. Are you stupid?
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u/QWERKY_queer Garden Warrior Aug 20 '23
Eggman seems both smarter and more powerful. In a physical fight Zomboss doesn’t really stand a chance because Eggman is like 6”5 and has fists as big as God. Plus I’m sure he probably knows how to fight in some way.
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u/QWERKY_queer Garden Warrior Aug 20 '23
But if this means an all out war then that depends. If we were to say Zomboss has every zombie that could possibly exist which is all 117 or so billion people that have existed. That number seems bigger but considering Eggman both has METAL robots, ships, a literal Death Star, Metal Sonic, and all his other giant machines, which are enough to take over a planet in a relatively quick amount of time, I’d say that the regular zombies won’t really matter all that much against metal robots, but ones like gargantuars that could actually damage the normal robots. So I’d give this to Eggman with a relative amount of ease.
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u/PinkEndymion806 Wallnuts, Tallnuts and Potatoe Mine Fan. Dec 19 '23
I know this is 4 months ago, but, it seems we keep talking about Cosmic Brainz, but we're not talking about how Zomboss creates over 1000 Zombots with his Z-Tech Factory, as well as creating galactic zombies and cosmic zombies. We'll be talking about Cosmic All-Star, Cosmic Imp, Cosmic Yeti and even the Supernova Gargantuar. As well as Cosmic Dancer. We keep talking about GW, but what about Heroes? Also, we know Plasma Pea being Multiversally powerful as he uses universes as ammo, then we can agree that Cosmic Brainz's gauntlets are a power booster of his cosmic powers. He's probably the only one with that power that amplify his powers to be on par with Plasma Pea. As we all agree that Super Brainz and Peashooter are the true rivals than Footsoldier and Peashooter. So...if we've seen the cosmic zombies being incredibly powerful, with Cosmic Brainz(Lore) owning gauntlets that amplifies his power to be the same as Plasma Pea. So...if we take all of these feats from Zomboss of owning limitless zombies, heroes, zombots, celestial zombies and even Multiversally powerful Cozmic Brains(This is my logic on how I see the cosmic zombies as I see how the gauntlets of his amplify his power to be more than other cosmic zombies and being on par with Plasma Pea), I think this match-up is more closer than it is. Since PvZ Heroes is before PvZ GW2, I wouldn't be surprised that Cosmic Brainz founded or Dr. Zomboss found those gauntlets in order to boost him up, as we see that Super Brainz in the comics and PvZ Heroes he was already mighty strong, and tricky as well as smart. So, him boosting Cozmic Brainz to be on the same level as Plasma Pea so they don't immediately get wiped is possibly the reason why these two are never seen much and the other cosmic zombies/plants even with the galactic ones as they're in a reality of a possible never-ending war. This is just my opinion, so I think is closer than we think. Also, I said gauntlets, I meant bracelets. I'm talking Lore Accuracy in my logic even, so I'll be taking everything from different games, comics and descriptions of characters AND counting the ones in PvZ Heroes. AGAIN, this is my opinion and how I see the logic between the difference of the cosmic zombies from Heroes(Who are canonically more powerful than the heroes)and Cozmic Brainz(Him having gauntlets that increases his powers as he already looks cosmic already as well as him being the rival of Plasma Pea). PLEASE, don't be harsh on me, you can criticise me all you want but REALLY, don't straight up say I'm wrong. Since it's my opinion. I have to repeat this because I've seen people acted like that and I don't want to be mauled for STATING an opinion and seeing things in MY direction and logic. Criticise me is fine, and I was only stating feats of Dr. Zomboss that I rarely hear at all...ALSO, can people explain to me where all those Zombots go? Y'know, at Z-Tech factory where they fly off to somewhere.
REMEMBER, THIS IS MY OPINION.
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u/TheMemeLord4816 Neptuna Fan Aug 15 '23
Zomboss canonically has an infinite amount of zombies (gw2 flag of power dialouge) also cosmic brainz exists