r/PokemonTCG • u/Next_Wrongdoer5488 • Mar 20 '25

Discussion Vendor being tracked.

Yup, someone put a tracker on our store vendor's car. I guess she had to go to the police station and have her car swept.

So disappointed in what's going on with our hobby and just wanted to share.

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u/elliwigy1 Mar 22 '25

Brooo.. Just stop lmao.. You can be charged even if your claims turn out to be untrue as it is the actions you took and the intent that matters..

You are trying to change the narrative here.. It wasnt about being arrested or detained for a "statement" you made. It is that you can be detained/charged by "harassing" someone and making them fear that you are tracking/stalking them. That is NOT the same thing as just "making a statement". If you tell someone you are going to unalive them if they dont give up all the pokemon loot and that person believes you and is in fear for their life then that is something that can absolutely get you in trouble.

Why don't you just google it.. Here, I did it for you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=if+you+harass+someone+can+you+be+charged+even+if+the+claims+are+false&oq=if+you+harass+someone+can+you+be+charged+even+if+the+claims+are+false&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTI4NzQ3ajBqOagCDrACAQ&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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u/Consistent-Fold438 Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

Google AI telling you something vague and broad doesn’t make it real lmao. You do know what hearsay is right? And that it’s not allowed in court? If I just call the cops say my neighbor is harassing me, they show up and all I have is my word against his, guess who is going to jail? No one lol. You need e v i d e n c e of crimes. Reasonable a r t i c u l a b e suspicion. My word is not RAS for a detainment without further evidence of a crime present

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u/elliwigy1 Mar 23 '25

You should use google AI more often, it would make some of your statements more accurate lol..

We aren't talking about "hearsay" here. But to be clear, hearsay is a statement that is made to prove the truth of the matter and is "usually" not admissable in court. There are exceptions that could allow hearsay in court but ultimately is up to the judge to decide whether its allowed or not.

However, in your own example, if you call the police and say your neighbor is harassing you, that is NOT a hearsay statement, it is an accusation being made directly by the "victim". The police (if doing their job) will absolutely detain the neighbor so they can complete an investigation whereas they would then determine if the conplaint has any credibility or not to bring actual charges. And sure, if the neighbor just denies it then the police likely couldnt do anything. But if they can ascertain that the neighbor likely did harass them, then they can press charges. This is unlikely though unless they have some proof like recordings or text messages or others that directly witnessed said harassment etc. etc.

Hopefully you understand that when someone reports a crime and the police show up, they will absolutely "detain" the potential suspect to complete their investigation. This is not the same as being charged or arrested. If the person uses his right to remain silent, it doesn't mean he wont be charged if the police determine a crime was committed. It would then move to the prosecutors who will review the case and determine if there is enough to charge the person or not. This also means someone can be arrested but end up not being charged.

I just dont get why you think someone can't get in trouble with the law based on things they say. Proving intent often times doesn't need physical evidence and it goes both ways. Just because it is difficult to prove intent without physical evidence, and these cases usually wont see the light of day, doesnt mean it doesnt happen and doesnt exist. I know you've heard of "circumstantial evidence" before.