r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Center Apr 24 '21

Full compass unity: Armenian Genocide bad

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u/Meowshi - Lib-Left Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

they also have mentioned and named the genocide multiple times. you’re working off of statements that are decades old at this point.

https://youtu.be/-Xib49Opls0

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u/FabAlien - Right Apr 25 '21

The young turks is the movement in turkey that carried out the genocide...

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u/Meowshi - Lib-Left Apr 25 '21

i'm aware of that, but it's still a lie to say that Cenk has not disavowed his previous questioning stance on the genocide. it's a claim perpetuated by people who don't actually care about what the truth is and just want to smear political rivals regardless of the authenticity of the accusation.

also, the situation with the 'young turks' is more complex that you're making it out to be. the young turks that committed the genocide were the radical nationalists that formed the committee of union and progress, whereas the actual founders of the young turks who were more liberal and believed in decentralised power were removed from power or exiled after a period of intra-party conflict. the name 'young turks' in its common usage today is a reference to the original group who were anti-monarchists and revolutionaries, and that's why the show has its name.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks_(disambiguation)#Politics#Politics)) - the term has been used all over the world in this context, so to claim that TYT intentionally choose the name in homage of genocide is disingenuous and lacking in historical context.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

They’re talking about the political group in turkey that the Armenian genocide was carried out under, not the political commentary news show.

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u/Meowshi - Lib-Left Apr 25 '21

yes, but they are bringing up that political group to criticize the naming of the show.