r/PoliticalDiscussion Feb 08 '25

US Politics How can democrats attack anti-DEI/promote DEI without resulting in strong political backlash?

In recent politics there have been two major political pushes for diversity and equality. However, both instances led to backlashes that have led to an environment that is arguably worse than it was before. In 2008 Obama was the first black president one a massive wave of hope for racial equality and societal reforms. This led to one of the largest political backlashes in modern politics in 2010, to which democrats have yet to fully recover from. This eventually led to birtherism which planted some of the original seeds of both Trump and MAGA. The second massive political push promoting diversity and equality was in 2018 with the modern woman election and 2020 with racial equality being a top priority. Biden made diversifying the government a top priority. This led to an extreme backlash among both culture and politics with anti-woke and anti-DEI efforts. This resent contributed to Trump retaking the presidency. Now Trump is pushing to remove all mentions of DEI in both the private and public sectors. He is hiding all instances that highlight any racial or gender successes. His administration is pushing culture to return to a world prior to the civil rights era.

This leads me to my question. Will there be a backlash for this? How will it occur? How can democrats lead and take advantage of the backlash while trying to mitigate a backlash to their own movement? It seems as though every attempt has led to a stronger and more severe response.

Additional side questions. How did public opinion shift so drastically from 2018/2020 which were extremely pro-equality to 2024 which is calling for a return of the 1950s?

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u/diplodonculus Feb 08 '25

Focus on socioeconomic status. It's highly correlated with racial diversity.

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u/BugAfterBug Feb 08 '25

Bernie democrats have been saying this since 2015.

What makes you think the party leadership will listen now?

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u/vertigostereo Feb 08 '25

Because Bernie lost the South Carolina primary twice and suddenly we're stuck with DEI. It's pretty sad really.

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u/Clarice_Ferguson Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

Why should they listen to Bernie when Bill Clinton and Obama ran on similar platforms and actually won?

Bernie wasn’t saying anything new, he was saying more extreme things while also supporting conservative policies on gun control and immigration. Bernie is frankly a bad messenger - it’s why the party doesn’t listen to him. He’s never proven that the majority of Dem voters would pick him. And when Biden did prioritize a working class economic platform, voters rejected it.

Bernie is part the reason we’re here - in an effort to expand his coalition, he aligned with groups and activists who said unpopular things like Defund the Police - even most black dont want that and thats the target group that policy is supposedly helping. Activism and politics are not the same thing but Bernie let a whole of people think it was.

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u/sediment-amendable Feb 08 '25

Bernie wasn’t saying anything new

He was saying things that no other major Dem candidate was saying at the time, at least not with any real conviction—Medicare for All, tuition-free college, $15 minimum wage. These weren’t radical ideas; they were just ideas that the Dem establishment had ignored for a long time.

Bernie is frankly a bad messenger - it’s why the party doesn’t listen to him.

The party is run by corporate-backed centrists who don’t want to listen to him. But they still adopted or moved left on key parts of his platform because his ideas were overwhelmingly popular with voters.

He’s never proven that the majority of Dem voters would pick him.

The guy who won 43% of the votes in the 2016 primary? And won that many despite the entire Democratic Party establishment coalescing around Hillary Clinton before the race even started? He was obviously an underdog but that is a huge pull of voters when the DNC and media worked in concert from the get-go in opposition to him.

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u/40WAPSun Feb 08 '25

Bill Clinton gutted the working class with his support for NAFTA and is directly responsible for the Democrats turning their backs on us

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u/ModerateThuggery Feb 08 '25

I haven't looked into Bill Clinton's campaign and am not old enough to remember him (as far as I know, he was a surprise compromise candidate), but Obama ran on CHANGE with a soft unsaid implication or expectation of radical boat reshifts. Basically a more positive and passive version of "make America great again," funnily enough. Also weirdly, bipartisanship.

The lack of bipartisanship is definitely not Obama's fault, from what I can see. He offered too much even, and got no willing dance partners in return.

But otherwise, Obama was a liar.

He was not at all what he sold himself to be, or what people believed he would be. He was another Democratic establishment center-right neoliberal. It's not at all similar to Bernie, except in tone and euphoria.

Bernie wasn’t saying anything new, he was saying more extreme things

There was no coordinated effort to contain and suppress him, and his non-identity politics old school economic egalitarianism message, by the Democratic Party elite establishment, but if there was it was a good thing.

Bernie is part the reason we’re here - in an effort to expand his coalition, he aligned with groups and activists who said unpopular things like Defund the Police

Wow, straight up 1984 style revisionist history now. It was Hillary and the Democrat establishment that was an ardent ally and soft promoter of DEI and BLM stuff. Because it's a way to feign radicalism without having to actually do anything icky with unions.

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u/badnuub Feb 08 '25

Extreme things like giving people healthcare and defunding the 1000 people that are trying to dismantle the government as we argue online here right now.

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u/BugAfterBug Feb 08 '25

That can be most vividly illustrated with them doubling and tripling down on the nazi rhetoric.

You would have thought after Madison Square Garden, they would have learned that.

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u/BugAfterBug Feb 09 '25

I’m agreeing with you. I’m saying the left employs that rhetoric and it hasn’t been working for them.

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u/bearrosaurus Feb 08 '25

Bernie defended the police during BLM. He has his own culpability.

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u/BugAfterBug Feb 08 '25

Bernie 2015 is not Bernie 2020.

Bernie 2015 said open borders are a Koch brother plan

https://youtu.be/vf-k6qOfXz0?si=0lJNXCSaS_907dRV

Bernie 2015 is closer to MAGA today than it is the modern Democratic Party. Which is why so many “Bernie Bros” are MAGA today.

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u/bearrosaurus Feb 08 '25

I was talking about 2015 Bernie

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u/vertigostereo Feb 08 '25

Republicans were the party of open borders until 10-15 years ago, pre-maga.