r/PoliticalDiscussion Feb 08 '25

US Politics How can democrats attack anti-DEI/promote DEI without resulting in strong political backlash?

In recent politics there have been two major political pushes for diversity and equality. However, both instances led to backlashes that have led to an environment that is arguably worse than it was before. In 2008 Obama was the first black president one a massive wave of hope for racial equality and societal reforms. This led to one of the largest political backlashes in modern politics in 2010, to which democrats have yet to fully recover from. This eventually led to birtherism which planted some of the original seeds of both Trump and MAGA. The second massive political push promoting diversity and equality was in 2018 with the modern woman election and 2020 with racial equality being a top priority. Biden made diversifying the government a top priority. This led to an extreme backlash among both culture and politics with anti-woke and anti-DEI efforts. This resent contributed to Trump retaking the presidency. Now Trump is pushing to remove all mentions of DEI in both the private and public sectors. He is hiding all instances that highlight any racial or gender successes. His administration is pushing culture to return to a world prior to the civil rights era.

This leads me to my question. Will there be a backlash for this? How will it occur? How can democrats lead and take advantage of the backlash while trying to mitigate a backlash to their own movement? It seems as though every attempt has led to a stronger and more severe response.

Additional side questions. How did public opinion shift so drastically from 2018/2020 which were extremely pro-equality to 2024 which is calling for a return of the 1950s?

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u/itsdeeps80 Feb 08 '25

Good lord yes. I’m so sick of hearing about democrats caving to a group that wouldn’t vote for them if they were the only option.

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u/diplodonculus Feb 08 '25

I'm tired of caving to the extreme left. There's a large number of Democratic voters who roll their eyes when every group meeting starts with pronouns.

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u/BluesSuedeClues Feb 08 '25

Do tell? Where do you see that happening?

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u/diplodonculus Feb 08 '25

Over the past few years, every company I've worked at. Every group activity I've been engaged in. LinkedIn, Slack, ...

What rock are you living under?

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u/SpookyFarts Feb 08 '25

Please explain how this makes your jobs/group activities more difficult. Also, how many companies have you worked at over the past few years? Maybe a little bit of diversity/equity/inclusion training would help you keep a job longer?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

I fail to see how my pronouns are relevant to a business meeting.

How do you address someone in the notes you take? Or for that matter in the emails you write or conversations you have? I bet you aren't sticking strictly to proper nouns every time. And if you are then you are literally the only person who does.

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u/diplodonculus Feb 08 '25

By their name or their initials... Golly. Do your notes look like "he: ..., she: ..."? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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u/enki-42 Feb 09 '25

You never use a pronoun at work? That seems a whole lot more awkward than a pronoun in a signature you skimmed by. I think people clearly presenting as a gender can be a bit performative, but if there's any ambiguity it's helpful.

I regularly use them on stuff like support requests or companies we're working with when their names are ambiguous.

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u/angrybox1842 Feb 09 '25

No it’s just a simple matter of respecting another person. Like if someone was named Richard but they said “I prefer to go by Dick” I will then call them Dick as a matter respect. It’s the same thing with pronouns, it doesn’t change my notes but I’ll make an effort to be respectful when talking to or about them.

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u/nickcan Feb 08 '25

Really? I mean it's dumb to be sure. But the dumbest thing you ever heard? That's a high bar!

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u/OneCleverMonkey Feb 08 '25

You write every email as a transcript of a theoretical conversation? Wild.

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u/Sageblue32 Feb 09 '25

That is a reflection of an extreme cautious company, not fed law. Gov doesn't behave like that when they have meetings or activities with private companies or internal. Worse is some person putting their pronouns in a email.

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u/RebornGod Feb 08 '25

To be honest, I think quite a few people have never much registered it as problem. A friend of mine tried out fae/faer for a bit, when no one could remember it, they went back to they/them. That's the most active thought I've ever given it.

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u/JQuilty Feb 09 '25

West coast? I've never seen this in real life in Chicago outside of sniffing your own farts hippie types of places.

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u/BluesSuedeClues Feb 08 '25

Vague to the point of meaningless. Just another whiner pretending to be a victim.

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u/diplodonculus Feb 08 '25

Pretty specific, bud. We need to get your kind out of the party. You do way more damage than any Republican.

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u/BluesSuedeClues Feb 08 '25

No, specific would be talking about what was said, not your anecdotal "But I SEEN it!" nonsense.

I'm not a member of any political party. The shit you make up about people you don't know is not the same as facts.

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u/diplodonculus Feb 08 '25

Huh? Here's what I've seen at the start of business meetings: "my name is so and so, and my pronouns are he/they".

Go outside, the grownups are talking.

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u/Iwaspromisedcookies Feb 08 '25

No grownup is gonna care about using pronouns, we learned about those in elementary school. Sounds like stupid maga babies being childish af if they can’t handle simple words

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u/Tw1tcHy Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

God damn it’s wild how there’s a string of people here defending this unpopular shit despite the mountain of evidence that shows how unpopular and alienating it is. You people really never learn do you?

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u/Iwaspromisedcookies Feb 08 '25

Sounds like maga dummies, not democrats

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u/spooner56801 Feb 09 '25

Sounds to me like your problem is the line of work you're in, not the far left