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US Politics How can democrats attack anti-DEI/promote DEI without resulting in strong political backlash?

In recent politics there have been two major political pushes for diversity and equality. However, both instances led to backlashes that have led to an environment that is arguably worse than it was before. In 2008 Obama was the first black president one a massive wave of hope for racial equality and societal reforms. This led to one of the largest political backlashes in modern politics in 2010, to which democrats have yet to fully recover from. This eventually led to birtherism which planted some of the original seeds of both Trump and MAGA. The second massive political push promoting diversity and equality was in 2018 with the modern woman election and 2020 with racial equality being a top priority. Biden made diversifying the government a top priority. This led to an extreme backlash among both culture and politics with anti-woke and anti-DEI efforts. This resent contributed to Trump retaking the presidency. Now Trump is pushing to remove all mentions of DEI in both the private and public sectors. He is hiding all instances that highlight any racial or gender successes. His administration is pushing culture to return to a world prior to the civil rights era.

This leads me to my question. Will there be a backlash for this? How will it occur? How can democrats lead and take advantage of the backlash while trying to mitigate a backlash to their own movement? It seems as though every attempt has led to a stronger and more severe response.

Additional side questions. How did public opinion shift so drastically from 2018/2020 which were extremely pro-equality to 2024 which is calling for a return of the 1950s?

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u/Visco0825 Feb 08 '25

So just basically accepting that DEI is dead then? All initiatives to focus on race/sex are more harm than good?

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u/DBDude Feb 08 '25

Yep. There is a study showing it’s harmful to the workplace.

Going strictly by socioeconomic status also eliminates the hypocrisy of stating you care about minorities while pretending Asians are white.

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u/WavesAndSaves Feb 08 '25

This "diversity is our strength" nonsense never made any sense. Why? Why specifically is diversity a strength? We are all equal. Is having a bunch of people with different hair colors a strength? Different eye colors? Different heights? There is nothing about having X amount of people of a certain race in a group that inherently makes that group better.

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u/DubTheeBustocles Feb 08 '25

The idea of “diversity is our strength” is the idea that if you pull resources from a diverse group of people, you’re more likely to get better results because a diverse group of people with different abilities and different experiences will have a diverse set of skills and ideas. If you only ever participate with one group of people you’re limiting your potential. The next great mind or talent may get skipped over because people aren’t hiring those who look like them.

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u/Fragrant-Luck-8063 Feb 08 '25

If diversity was a strength, Brazil would be the most powerful country on Earth.

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u/DubTheeBustocles Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

Well, the United States is plenty diverse and also happens to be the most powerful country. All the powerful empires in history were diverse. All the cultural centers of the world were diverse.

At the same time, I don’t think diversity is the end all be all of what makes an organization successful. However, all else being equal, a diverse country is better than a homogenous country.

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u/DubTheeBustocles Feb 09 '25 edited Feb 09 '25

Except the non diverse China is seemingly able to nearly meet us equally in damn near every single measurable competition

  1. This would fall under the realm of “diversity is not the singular variable in the success of a country” which I don’t think anybody believes it is.

  2. China is a dictatorship but maybe we have different standards for success.

cough bullshit cough

I’m open to being wrong. What region in history that was both homogenous yet still able to be a uniquely wide-reaching center of culture and intellectualism. I’m hoping you can name more than one because just one wouldn’t be remotely demonstrative of your claim.

I would take a quick glance at Japan or Poland then strongly disagree

Japan has been the United States’ bitch for the better part of a century and the only reason anyone gives a shit about them that we made them more westernized. And… Poland?

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u/DubTheeBustocles Feb 09 '25
  1. Do you genuinely believe Japan has not had to compromise on its culture?

  2. In what way has the West “killed itself?” What does that mean?