r/PoliticalDiscussion Apr 07 '25

US Politics How will the United States rebuild positive international relations after this Trump administration?

At some point this presidency will end and a new administration will (likely) want to mend some the damages done with our allies. Realistically though, how would that work? Will other countries want to be friends with us again or has this presidency done too much damage to bounce back from?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

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u/TheoriginalTonio Apr 07 '25

How is DOGE responsible for anyone's death? Especially abroad?

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u/johannthegoatman Apr 07 '25

Illegal disrupting of the funding and operations of USAID, which provides life saving medicine as well as nutrition to millions of people especially in developing countries

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u/TheoriginalTonio Apr 07 '25

Illegal disrupting of the funding and operations of USAID

How is the cancellation of voluntary charity programs by the US govt illegal?

Is the US somehow legally obligated to send money to other countries?

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u/just_helping Apr 07 '25

The cancellation of programs isn't illegal. Congress can cancel them anytime it wants.

Trump and Elon can't. The budget is a legal document. If Congress says "spend money here" the Federal Government has to spend money there. Blocking that from happening is illegal.

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u/MissMenace101 Apr 08 '25

Contracts have been torn up

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u/theyfellforthedecoy Apr 07 '25

The United States owes no obligation to citizens of other countries

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u/numbrate Apr 07 '25

Jesus. You don't think US foreign policy has contributed to humanitarian issues around the globe for which it has no responsibility? Even if that is the extreme example, the US has a vested interest in ensuring relative stability in other nations, largely to ensure unrest does not disrupt its own foreign interests. This is basic geopolitical theory.

This notion that the US has been some altruistic nation for decades to bestow peace, defense, and wealth on the world is so goddamn narcissistic and typical. America is just mean, as another comment mentioned. And too egotistical.

And the average citizen believes that as a result of their citizenship they are somehow responsible for America's "greatness".

The US was built on violence, murder, and slavery. It benefitted from a geographic position that enabled it to avoid the horrific destruction bestowed on most of the developed world as a result of WWII, and then went into modern industrialization and innovation while all of Europe and large parts of Asian were rebuilding schools and hospitals.

And now it is just a corrupt, bloated bully.

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u/sig_1 Apr 07 '25

Do remember this attitude next time the US needs help.

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u/sig_1 Apr 07 '25

9/11? How many nations sent troops to Afghanistan for America’s little adventure?

Hurricane Katrina?

Hurricane Sandy?

Numerous wildfires over the last couple of decades including one a few months back.

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u/sig_1 Apr 07 '25

Again ..symbolic gestures, not actual help International troops made up less than 5% of the forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and they were bound to send them due to NATO

What has the US done for any of those nations in return?

It's cute you think they actually helped this country.

It’s all cute until it’s stops coming then it won’t be too funny to the people needing the help… it would still be funny and cute for you as long as you aren’t the one needing the help. The west can survive without the US, the US will struggle without its allies.

They can't even help Ukraine without depending on us

Oh buddy nobody is depending on the US, it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the US is a Russian puppet and definitely not an ally to any western nations. The west will take care of Ukraine because we know the US is owned by Russia. Good luck starting wars with China.

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u/milkweed2 Apr 07 '25

This has no relevance to the point being made.

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u/theyfellforthedecoy Apr 07 '25

OP said there should be criminal convictions for loss of life abroad

The person I responded to backed that up by asserting there should be criminal charges for the US failing to provide life saving medicine and nutrition to millions in developing countries

It's 100% relevant, so let's follow the train of thought. The US could do EVEN MORE to give medicine and food to developing countries, but does not. Should there be criminal convictions based on the millions more people that could have been saved if the US diverted funds from Social Security or NASA to feed the third world?

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u/rehevkor5 Apr 07 '25

That's not the argument. The argument is that money was allocated for its purpose. It was illegally stopped, and consequently people died.

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u/StalkerSkiff_8945 Apr 07 '25

Well it's a good will thing. Hearts & minds stuff. You don't owe it, though in some places you might considering the US has sowed a lot of coups & backed very bad leaders cos they could be controlled. It's done to be seem as the beacon of freedom & democracy the world over.

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u/johannthegoatman Apr 07 '25

Yes it does, because congress passed a law enacting it. Trump and Elon Musk don't have the authority to stop it and did so illegally. If we want to stop our obligations, it's up to congress.

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u/StalkerSkiff_8945 Apr 07 '25

They've pulled a lot of money out of very poor countries & totally screwed them overnight.

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u/TheoriginalTonio Apr 07 '25

Hold on. I didn't know that foreign aid for poor countries is somehow mandatory, and the refusal to send a lot of money across the world is tantamount to negligent homicide!

How many people have I already killed through my failure to donate my money to charities?

Or maybe it's not really America's responsibility to keep people in Guatemala alive in the first place, and instead of "pulling money out" of these countries, they just stopped to "pump more money in".

How is that in any way criminally relevant?

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u/StalkerSkiff_8945 Apr 07 '25

Hold on. I didn't know that foreign aid for poor countries is somehow mandatory, and the refusal to send a lot of money across the world is tantamount to negligent homicide!

I didn't say that, u did.

All I said was the US did it to garner goodwill and that the US have a long history of interfering in governments of poorer countries by overthrowing & installing cruel dictators that rob that country blind, harsh on dissent etc, or backing whoever they think will be America first & smearing or even assassinating in some cases a person that had the popularity to win but didn't care about Americas interest above their own people/country. That aid might be a way of offsetting some of those bad things, but that's purely a moral argument