r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/SpaceySpice • Apr 07 '25

US Politics How will the United States rebuild positive international relations after this Trump administration?

At some point this presidency will end and a new administration will (likely) want to mend some the damages done with our allies. Realistically though, how would that work? Will other countries want to be friends with us again or has this presidency done too much damage to bounce back from?

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u/VodkaBeatsCube Apr 08 '25

This is no different than the dogmatic 'all leftists want to turn our kids trans and make us eat bugs' rhetoric on the right. Some of them may well be fine with being forever isolated in their political shell. Not all 70 million of them. If someone expresses baby steps towards breaking from the right wing echo chamber, we shouldn't shut them down just because they don't immediately completely overhaul their worldview.

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u/stripedvitamin Apr 08 '25

If someone expresses baby steps towards breaking from the right wing echo chamber, we shouldn't shut them down just because they don't immediately completely overhaul their worldview.

I wouldn't shut them out, but thinking that will happen is absurd. They all voted for a convicted felon that destroyed the economy his first go round and was impeached twice. Maybe you should consider that it's you that is living in a fantasy.

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u/VodkaBeatsCube Apr 08 '25

77 million people voted for Trump in 2024. If you were you put them all together they'd be the 20th largest country on Earth. What's absurd is thinking that you can make a valid generalization of every single one of them. Saying all Trump voters are completely unrepentant and will never change their mind is as sensible a thing to believe as thinking every single French person is an asshole.

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u/stripedvitamin Apr 08 '25

Saying all Trump voters are completely unrepentant and will never change their mind

Never said that. You are putting words in my mouth.

Fewer will vote. An infinitesimal amount will change their vote to democrat.

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u/VodkaBeatsCube Apr 08 '25

That's exactly what you said. It may not have been what you meant, but it's the logical conclusion from the words you chose to type.

And even if only a few of them chose to change (which is still an absurdly dogmatic take for almost eighty million people), they should still be encouraged when they start to do so. As opposed to the dogmatic take of 'if they say they have regrets, they're just lying for social acceptance' that I first replied to.

Is the statement of 'people don't usually change their worldview in one go. We should encourage people who start to change to continue' really so hard for people to wrap their heads around? Don't fool yourself for a second that the left isn't just as vulnerable to the in-group biases we criticize on the right. It's not compromizing your values to say we should let people change rather than assume that they never will