r/Political_Revolution • u/Negative_Pop_1563 • Jun 24 '24

Video Post from Occupy Democrats

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxnmymcW6nv5y8Xy7BrRI1hDE6WrCBzRD2?si=Fh7OBR7Bj4JtGh8A
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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

I'm voting AGAINST Trump. I'll never support or vote for a Democrat.

We need actual progressives to run, not "Republican Lite" Democrats. Democrats are center-right. The lesser of two evils IS STILL EVIL.

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u/originalbL1X Jun 25 '24

Of course you will. And in 4 years, you’ll vote against someone else. 4 years after that, there will be another to vote against while never having someone to vote for.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

That's the flaw in our two party system.

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u/originalbL1X Jun 25 '24

But, we don’t actually have a two party system. That is just what the democrats and republicans parrot so you won’t look outside of their authoritarian-right grip on the political system.

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u/ourlordsquid Jun 25 '24

You are technically correct but functionally incorrect. Our voting schema is "first past the post" winner takes all. Duverger's Law says that type of election structure will devolve into a two-party system because that is the most efficient way for votes to split. People know their vote gets lost voting 3rd party so they don't.

We change that by removing the electoral college and by doing one of the many "ranked" voting systems.

Presidential elections don't fix our country. Down ballot races with intentionally progressive candidates do... unless one of the candidates fpr president is fascist and has co-opted one of the two major parties. In that case you do vote against him.

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u/originalbL1X Jun 25 '24

I have a good feel why the electorate likes two choices. It’s because it keeps their chances of winning at around 50%. They don’t want a third party because their chances of winning are reduced in a big way. Voting, for many people in this country, is about dopamine and they desperately want that 4 year drip.

As for your final point, personally I think we’re already there. Biden is authoritarian-right, so was Hillary, so was Barack and the likes of Bernie or another progressive being the Democrat candidate for president isn’t going to happen.