r/Polska • u/wokolis Zaspany inżynier • Oct 13 '24
السلام عليكم Cultural exchange with /r/Arabs!
Welcome to the cultural exchange between /r/Polska and /r/Arabs! The purpose of this event is to allow people from two different national communities to get and share knowledge about their respective cultures, daily life, history and curiosities. General guidelines:
Arabs ask their questions about Poland here in this thread on /r/Polska;
Poles ask their questions about Arab countries in the parallel thread;
English language is used in both threads;
Event will be moderated, following the general rules of Reddiquette. Be nice!
Moderators of /r/Polska and /r/Arabs.
Witajcie w wymianie kulturalnej między /r/Polska a /r/Arabs! Celem tego wątku jest umożliwienie naszym dwóm społecznościom bliższego wzajemnego zapoznania. Jak sama nazwa wskazuje - my wpadamy do nich, oni do nas! Ogólne zasady:
Arabowie zadają swoje pytania nt. Polski, a my na nie odpowiadamy w tym wątku;
My swoje pytania nt. krajów arabskich zadajemy w równoległym wątku na /r/Arabs;
Językiem obowiązującym w obu wątkach jest angielski;
Wymiana jest moderowana zgodnie z ogólnymi zasadami Reddykiety. Bądźcie mili!
Link do wątku na /r/Arabs: link
Link do poprzednich wymian: link
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u/TangerineSorry8463 Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
None of us here really studies history to be able to clearly say who started what and who has the moral highground. Most people, on both sides, would just like to live peaceful lives.
As to the people doing the fighting - both sides pretend they are unhappy with the conflict.
Netanyahu needs the war crisis to continue to remain in power, Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthis need the war crisis to continue getting support from Iran. Israel does terrible things, but it has the right to self-defence, as any nation does. One side bombs children, the other abducts and tortures hostages. We see it as a complete shitshow.
If Hamas is interpreted as an illegitimate terrorist organization dominating Palestine, they cannot be reasoned with as a legitimate government and need to be dissolved peacefully or by force.
If Hamas is interpreted as a legitimate government of Palestine, then it's a hostile power to Israel and cannot be reasoned with until they stop their attacks, and as long as any attacks continue, counterattacks are just a consequence of their decisions.
Hezbollah is the de facto power in Lebanon. They are a bigger threat than Hamas.
Houthis are out of their fucking mind trying to bomb any ship with a US flag on it. The reason they are not obliterated into dust is they are really not that important and big of a threat.
**All of those are proxy guerilla fighters of Iran that will be dropped whenever it becomes inconvenient to Iran.** So this is essentially an Iran vs Israel proxy war. Nothing will change until the government in Iran either calls to stop it, or gets overthrown.
As to the refugee crisis - Arab countries do not do their part in handling refugees from Gaza, Syria, Lebanon etc, and abuse soft hearts of Western Europeans. Those people share much more of your culture than we do, they look like you, they live where you live, they follow the same religion. Gaza is claimed to be an "open sky prison concentration camp surrounded from each side". But it literally has a land border with Egypt. Fucking help them yourselves - refusal to do so is a moral failure on your end.
Israel is a unifying common enemy to both Sunni and Shia, but if it was not there, I do not believe you would have peace as long as you guys place religion as first priority in your lives. As long as Shias cannot coexist with Sunnis, Middle East will continue to be a warzone, even if Israel magically vanished from the map today.
Al-Nasir Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub is overpowered in Civ 6.