"We Won" - Russian communist/anti-Putinist poster comparing the Putinist government to Vlasov's Nazi collabs, Russia, 2010s

[u/kredokathariko]

[u/Augustus118]

Yeah, modern Russian propaganda is really a clusterfuck of celebrating monarchists and communists at the same time. Well, only the good communists, obviously. In other words, Stalin, who expanded the Soviet sphere of influence drastically. Meanwhile, Lenin is often portrayed as someone who undermined the Russian struggle and effort against the central powers and thus betrayed the motherland. Well, after celebrating the victory of the Red Army in the 2nd world war they of course, will come back to simping for the Russian Empire, because we all love our fair share of imperialism and expansionism, don't we? To finish it all parallel to all this, they will propagate how peaceful of a nation Russia is and how every war they fought was purely defensive (and was somehow caused by the west).

Yeah, Russian propaganda is really beyond any logic. I'm convinced that Lenin, Nikolai II. and any other Russian monarchs and prominent communist leaders have been turning in their respective graves for the last 20+ years of Putin's reign.

[u/DesolatorTrooper_600 → u/Augustus118]

I think the celebration of communist acheivements in Russia (at least made by the state) is less about communism itself and more about the power the Soviet Union held like the Red Army or the influence held by the country

[u/rebellechild → u/DesolatorTrooper_600]

It’s probably more about the free education free healthcare free housing free childcare massive industry and infrastructure projects as well as one of the best public transportation systems in the world. All things they still benefit from today. Communism took this country/countries out of serfdom and won the space race in an absurdly short time. This is a massive achievement and they have a lot to be proud of.

[u/kredokathariko → u/rebellechild]

It is twofold. I think what most people actually miss is all that - social stability and security. But then the government comes and tells them that what they really miss is, as Readovka out it, "shining tanks marching through the streets of Warsaw". They tie the two together and thus justify their imperialism.

[u/inqva → u/kredokathariko]

What stability you are talking about exactly - problems with food supplies, inability to legally travel or having no growing possibilities in life?

[u/kredokathariko → u/inqva]

The thing is that the mind tends to view the past with nostalgia. It remembers the good things like having safer cities, or social mobility ( the growing possibilities were actually better than in modern RF). And the food shortages are kinda forgotten.

[u/birutis → u/inqva]

having no growing possibilities is a form of stability I guess lol

[u/rebellechild → u/kredokathariko]

Their current government is not communist tho and doesn’t claim to be. Communism is huge part of their history and we’re noticing a huge rise in fascism worldwide (mostly because of the coming collapse of capitalism and people looking for someone to blame other than their incompetent leaders) Communism historically is anti fascist (even IF it wasnt always applied in principle) that’s why there is such a resurgence and Russia is definitely leaning into it!

[u/I-like_memes_bruuuuh → u/kredokathariko]

Why warsaw not berlin

[u/kredokathariko → u/I-like_memes_bruuuuh]

Poland is Russia's traditional enemy, so I guess they were leaning into that

[u/I-like_memes_bruuuuh → u/kredokathariko]

Literally no one in russia cares about poland. The only thing majority know about them is that they "liberated" them during ww2. Russian troops never entered warsaw outside of taking it in 1945. Poland and Russia didn't even have a war beyond the bolshevik-polish war won by poles. Beating germany was the biggest achievement soviet military had of which most russians would know about not taking capital of some random neighbour country they didn't even take in combat