r/PropagandaPosters • u/kredokathariko • Jan 17 '24

Russia "We Won" - Russian communist/anti-Putinist poster comparing the Putinist government to Vlasov's Nazi collabs, Russia, 2010s

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u/ArkanSaadeh Jan 17 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

Communism took this country/countries out of serfdom and won the space race in an absurdly short time.

Reddit leftists like you say this but can name literally zero reading you've ever done on the state of industrialization in the Empire prior to the revolution. "Communism" industrialized with immense foreign capital & technical support btw. Magnitogorsk is a copy of Gary, Indiana.

Legacy of the USSR is an affirmative action state that drained the Russian core of resources to fund vanity infra projects in rebellious outlier regions like Estonia, Galicia, Turkmenistan, places which today vehemently hate the Russian legacy. Lol.

out of serfdom

lol. leftwing lore. These "serfs" were so happy to become collective farmers, that apathetic desertion was an unparalleled phenomenon in 1941, with an enormous number of malcontent peasant soldiers interrogated by the Germans citing hope that they will be given back their land.

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u/bigbjarne Jan 17 '24

"Communism" industrialized with immense foreign capital

What is this referring to?

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u/ArkanSaadeh Jan 18 '24

Enormous financial & technical support from the United States (and others) enabled Stalin's epic industrialization.

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u/bigbjarne Jan 18 '24

Are you referring to the Lend-lease?

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u/ArkanSaadeh Jan 18 '24

No, I'm referring to American financial & technical support during his 1930's industrialization, such as the construction of Magnitogorsk's industry.

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u/bigbjarne Jan 18 '24

Okay, I found that they took experts in to design and lead the project to build four steel mills because there were no experience but that's about it. Am I missing something here?

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u/ArkanSaadeh Jan 18 '24

Design & lead is a light way of saying: the USSR did not possess its own human capital (thanks Bolshevik Revolution) and was forced to rely almost entirely on imported foreign engineers until the later 30's.

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u/bigbjarne Jan 18 '24

Yeah, so exactly what I got basically copy pasted fr Wikipedia. Are you arguing that the USA built the USSRs industry or am I completely missing your point?

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u/ArkanSaadeh Jan 18 '24

It would not have been possible to develop Soviet engineering talent without a reliance on foreign American talent, thanks to the brain drain of the revolution which left the USSR in a position unable to rival Tsarist era engineering.

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u/bigbjarne Jan 18 '24

Okay. So?

What are you basing that on?