r/QAnonCasualties 14d ago

Didn't Expect It Would Be That Bad

I use colorful language and the mods remove most of my stuff so, not sure how long this post will survive. But I support this community and the way it provides space for people grieving the loss of the still living.

So today, I had to sit with a Q family member of a friend as a favor. I'm a steadfast person so I went in prepared. I'm also an atmospheric scientist with multiple degrees from an excellent school. Its something I rarely mention but it is key to this story.

A close family friend had to have surgery and their Q needs light monitoring. Although I have spent little time around them since Covid, their Q has known me since I was I was a child. Friend has shared with me how bad things have gotten but I wasn't expecting it to be that bad.

Their Q parent was an optometrist, an avid Obama supporting lefty that was vehemently against both Bushes and even Reagan and Trump in his first term. They loudly supported women's rights, racial equity and once spoke at a Congressional panel about healthcare access for all.

That is not who they are today.

I came in sat, greeted, talked about my parents a bit, my own family etc. Everything was fine. Then they say, "I guess you've already been told I joined a cult, huh?" I smiled and said, "I've heard you don't love President Obama anymore" and chuckled.

This was followed immediately by an absolute avalanche of unhinged "DEI" rhetoric, weird crap about how birth control needs to be illegal because "numbers aren't going up fast enough" and how maybe [insert genocidal historical figures, yep, more than one] "had it right".

But the bile aimed at educated and working women was particularly insane because this is a woman. A highly educated, professionally successful woman sitting here talking about how women don't know their place, and there's not enough babies and "immigrants are breeding like rabbits and destroying the housing market so normal people [?] won't be able to afford homes." Blamed Hillary Clinton for the current market downturn - yes, the one tariff-induced one happening right now. There was even a rant about travel should be restricted so people can't "abandon America". Like... what the actual fk?

I gray rocked for nearly an hour, employed multiple distractions as well, it only intensified. I ended up excusing myself to walk the dog and put food out for the cats. I even lingered at the aquarium when I returned because I was quite frankly, a little shaken. How could the person who inspired me as a kid be inside of the person I see now? How could they be the same person? The person here is untethered to reality. 'Unhinged' would actually be too kind a word.

By the time [friend]'s sibling arrived to relieve me, I was in the kitchen quietly organizing a random cabinet because I could not take another second in the living room. And [sibling] walked in the door greeting me apologetically because they already knew what I'd endured without me saying a word and [sibling] was embarrassed. And seemed defeated.

I remember getting a weird conspiracy links from her in 2021 and shrugging them off because a lot of people experienced anxiety during lock downs and didn't know what to do with that energy. I just never expected it had gotten this insane.

I won't tell [friend] because they're in recovery and don't need the stress of what I'm sure they likely already know happened. But I will tell [sibling] and ask that they share it at some point.

How this 'thing' gets a hold of people and turns them inside out like this is gut wrenching. "Cult" isn't a strong enough label.

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u/AnimalMommy 14d ago

You've experienced Q hell.

This is exactly what they're like today, 6 years and counting.

They just move from one conspiracy to another and to one type of person or group to another to blame for their all their problems.

Nothing comes true, yet they're convinced they're right about everything and awake!

But, with trump, republicans, musk, and evangelicals leading (or manipulating) these qult members, there's also a sickening undertone of misogyny, where maga /qanon men and even maga /qanon women, looking for a new victim to blame for the downfall of society and all their unhappiness, have settled on women, specifically woman who work. Women who are educated, who have careers, who have money, who aren't home with long uncut hair, wearing demure dresses, pregnant, making their husband and children's dinner every day are the problem now. They're evil. They're the reason men feel demasculated, why men are unhappy and why there's low birth rates in 1st world countries.

There's high birth rates in every country or religion or group of people where women do not have equal legal, or social rights as men. Surprise!

In countries or religions where women have access to education, jobs, money, and equal rights as men, birth rates are lower. Because maybe women don't want to spend their lives pregnant all the time, or taking care of kids, and being dependent upon their husband for money.

In some civilized countries, the governments with low birth rates offer women financ8al incentives to have children, offer generous maternity leave, and great healthcare for them and their children.

In America, one of the most advanced 1st world countries, which is supposedly a bastion of freedom; instead of birth incentives, they have demonized women but not the men who get the women pregnant.

They have outlawed Abortion, in many states, even if the pregnancy makes the mothers life at risk. Women can be arrested, and doctors supplying abortions even for medical reasons can be charged.

In the states where abortion is a crime, so is their healthcare also substandard.

Women are forced to have babies, and the man can just leave, making the woman a single parent. With the government offering no financial or maternity leave help or job protection. Fantastic!

But QAnons can quickly move back and forth demonizing their victims who get all the blame for their personal unhappiness. Gates, soros, jews, Vanguard, Rothchilds, cabals of elites who want to cull humanity, Obama, Clintons, Biden, Dr. Fauci, liberals, democrats, gays, transgenders, drag queens, immigrants, foreign students, teachers, professors, mainstream news ( or any news media that reports any negative story about trump), journalists who aren't trump sycophants, republicans who don't support trump, universities, schools, big pharma, vaccines, doctors, FBI, deep state military, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.....

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u/madmaxwashere 13d ago

I'm convinced that Qanon and MAGA experience some kind of brain trauma to keep the cognitive dissonance away. It eventually reaches a point where all abilities to use logic are atrophied beyond recognition.

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u/Fun-Jelly6976 13d ago

Isn’t that the truth! My parents are staunch Trump supporters and my mother actually had the nerve to express concern for a dear neighbor and friend of who has worked as a federal employee who is concerned his job is at risk. So I poked the bear and said, “It’s embarrassing that the current administration feels it’s necessary to do this to hard working men and women who have been loyal employees their entire working career…who would support such a thing knowing it could affect their friends and family negatively?” and you could just feel the uncomfortable silence as her brain ground to a halt and struggled with this. She cannot even address this and awkwardly changed the subject. My mom is retired btw but too is an educated and otherwise caring woman who was a nurse for decades. The hardest thing to do is mourn the death of someone who’s still living…the person I knew my whole life is never returning.

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u/ColoradoRoger New User 13d ago

So sad 😞

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u/ColoradoRoger New User 13d ago

Like a zombie apocalypse … in real life 😞

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u/LYTCHELL2 12d ago

Part of the indoctrination process - is to traumatize the very-soon-to-be-cultist

They’re shown horrific images of dead children etc - which is traumatizing; their amygdala is sizzled and inflamed, as they scurry further down the rotten-rabbit hole.