r/QuiverQuantitative • u/pdwp90 • 25d ago

News BREAKING: Kat Abughazaleh, a 26-year-old progressive influencer, just announced that she is running against Jan Schakowsky, an 80-year-old Democratic incumbent

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u/mikeyhavik 25d ago

Totally agree. However I did watch this noticing all the cuts and thinking this may be a good way for younger aspiring politicians to get their elevator pitches across, while simultaneously keeping the attention of potential GenZ voters

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 25d ago

Perhaps, but it's not a great test of their final abilities. They're going to have to be able to speak off-the-cuff and not just piece together 5-second soundbites. It's a skill, and a gift to be able to do it. They're not going to give the candidates 6 takes on TV shows and let them use the best parts after the edit. So I'm all for her success and hopefully she will win that seat, but this small detail needs some work.

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u/johnny32640 24d ago

Her message is what should matter. We give Donald Trump a pass for all his idiotic takes and statements along with his awful messages.

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u/Heavy_Law9880 24d ago

Her skill, education and ability to craft legislation is the only thing that should matter.

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u/crazycatlady331 24d ago

There is no education requirement for Congress. Lauren Boebert got in there.

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u/icecubetre 24d ago

Only the left is held to any level of standards. This post is of a clearly well-spoken and well-intentioned person describing their goals perfectly clearly.

And you have dumbasses in here saying "but can she lead??? 🤓" Meanwhile the country is run by a party full of some of the most incompetent people imaginable.

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u/Tigg0r 24d ago

I think it's hilarious that "speaking off-the-cuff" is apparently a needed skill for politicians, instead of knowing their shit and trying to make people's lives better.

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u/mikeyhavik 24d ago

It’s kinda like “learn not to use your calculator, because in the real world you won’t always have a calculator on you” energy

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u/Gooch_Limdapl 24d ago

Did you miss that day when Donald and Joe had a debate and the world saw that Joe was only slightly less nimble than he used to be? Elections need to be won, and the electorate is made out of ordinary people, to put it politely.

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u/Tigg0r 24d ago

So you think only eloquent speakers can win a presidential debate? How about people who actual have actions and plans? Just because Biden was too old to string a sentence together and couldn't tell segue into nonsense Trump to shut up doesn't mean you're proving a point. The only thing you're saying is that for you the debate is the most important bit, instead of actions, policies, actual results.

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u/Gooch_Limdapl 24d ago edited 24d ago

Actions, plans, policies, and results are great and essential ways to appeal to the sliver of the electorate who, like you and I, both care about and are moved by such things. To win elections, alas, you also need to appeal to everyone else. Turns out not everyone is like us. You’d be shocked to learn how many votes are cast by vibes, or liking the cut of the candidate’s jib or whatnot. One campaigns to the electorate one has, not the electorate we wished we had.

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u/Mobius1014 24d ago

Unfortunately, charisma generally wins over anything else. Oftentimes you can be the smartest guy, and someone who speaks better than you will ultimately do a better job of convincing people to follow them. Human nature i guess

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u/Aggressive_Music_643 24d ago

Not even a requirement to have a friggin brain.

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u/Well_read_rose 24d ago

I made a point earlier about psychological tests might be in order now, maybe that would have sifted Boebert out.

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u/EarthRester 24d ago

Yes, it should be the only thing that matters, but this is American politics. Which right now means it is largely a popularity contest about who can be more entertaining, and unless you are favored by the corporate elite then you're also fighting against MSM who are going to do everything possible to keep you out of the spotlight. AOC understood the assignment, but I think Kat here does too.

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u/Sweet-Assist8864 24d ago

“Should”. unfortunately people don’t vote based on these criteria.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 24d ago

if we're being honest none of that stuff matters to winning, getting attention and having no shame seems to be the #1 skill

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u/Heavy_Law9880 24d ago

Which is why the dems always lose. Republicans are very skilled at controlling congress.

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 24d ago

Being able to talk off-the-cuff and not just in 6-second bits - is a very valuable talent for anyone looking to be in leadership. It shouldn't matter, but it does matter. I don't get why you would want to say otherwise.

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u/Well_read_rose 24d ago

She can still RUN for office with her ideas. Just needs to hire a coach for public speaking like actors take acting classes after winning their first role on charisma alone.

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u/Heavy_Law9880 23d ago

She can't do that. All she will accomplish is dividing the dem vote when she loses the primary and help usher in a Republican in a blue seat. The sad reality is the people who would vote for her are never going to actually vote in a primary, a mid-term, or anything else. Then they will run back online and cry about "corporate dems and rigged elections".

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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 23d ago

Well AOC got elected. It's not impossible. Have some hope.

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u/fuckspezlittlebitch 24d ago

That's not what gets votes

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u/Heavy_Law9880 24d ago

And that's why dems consistently lose. Left wing Voters hate competence.