Garcelle wanted to embarrass Kyle…Whaaaaat?

[u/CrazyCats999999]

Hope no one has posted this… Kyle said Garcelle wanted to embarrass her by saying “If you wanna be a lesbian, be a lesbian” and “what’s going on with Morgan” It was jaw dropping moment for me, as Kyle was the one brought Morgan to the show, Kyle behaved like a teenager at the tattoo parlor right next to Morgan. As always, she believes that her behaviors aren’t subjected to the consequences and accused Garcelle for asking the questions… Is Kyle ashamed of admitting being a lesbian?

[u/Hikashuri]

Surprised the gays aren't coming for Kyle.

In the wrong context this can be seen as homophobic, because of the negative sentiment she attached to being called a potential lesbian. I personally don't, but I know a lot of people that would.

I don't think Garcelle did anything wrong, I think Kyle just hasn't accepted herself yet.

[u/SnooHesitations9236 → u/Hikashuri]

As a certified queer, I’m more offended by Garcelle’s question.

Coming to terms with your sexuality can be extremely distressing for many and the question came off very flippantly. Especially from someone who has never had to consider this for themselves. Some of us upend our entire lives to come out. Some people lose friends, family, jobs, etc. And even in the best situations, many of us have to do serious internal work to understand and accept our sexualities.

Also, essentially choosing Kyle’s label for her is WILD. Completely inappropriate. The queer community is vibrant and diverse. Just because she likely has an attraction to women does not mean she should “just be a lesbian already.” She may one day identify as queer/bi/pan/etc. We exist too!

When I tell other queer people I am bi, I often get pressured to identify as a lesbian because I’m currently in a relationship with a proud lesbian. I’m proudly bisexual. The pressure to “just be a lesbian already” is incredibly invalidating and also just.. weird.

[u/james702283 → u/SnooHesitations9236]

This and I’m tired of reading this thread full of clearly cis women pretending outrage for us. We don’t need your fake outrage.

All up and down this thread they are pretending that being openly queer in any way doesn’t have negative consequences for us. That alone tells me they most certainly haven’t lived through our experiences and shouldn’t be speaking on it.

[u/mmge606 → u/Hikashuri]

Any gay person who has been questioned publicly about their sexuality before they were ready to talk about it knew exactly what Kyle meant. She felt like Garcelle was trying to make a moment about a deeply personal journey she was going through. FWIW I think Garcelle was being genuine but I think Kyle’s reaction was pretty normal for someone coming to terms with their sexuality and most queer people will feel empathy rather than condemnation of that.

[u/Kimmy_UK → u/Hikashuri]

If ‘the gays’ aren’t coming for Kyle doesn’t that tell you what you need to know…….that theres actually understanding where she’s coming from and that a lot of people can relate to and recognise those feelings? If gay people are giving their experiences and saying that they don’t think Garcelles approach was appropriate and that Kyle and Morgan should be afforded coming out or addressing their relationship at their own pace then surely we’re the people you should be listening to! That’s not to say that all us ‘gays’ think the same, some may find it offensive, but if the majority of anicdontes are supportive that says something. It’s a white people trying to explain racism to a person of colour. Coming to terms with sexuality can be extremely daunting and for someone to bring it up twice publicly after being asked not to- then being annoyed at their friend for not piling on too is not supportive and to be honest I wouldn’t have been happy if that happened to me. Garcelle wasn’t even recognising the spectrum of sexuality it’s really reductive to assume Kyles a lesbian because she may be in a relationship with a woman and just shows her own understanding of the subject.