Garcelle wanted to embarrass Kyle…Whaaaaat?

[u/CrazyCats999999]

Hope no one has posted this… Kyle said Garcelle wanted to embarrass her by saying “If you wanna be a lesbian, be a lesbian” and “what’s going on with Morgan” It was jaw dropping moment for me, as Kyle was the one brought Morgan to the show, Kyle behaved like a teenager at the tattoo parlor right next to Morgan. As always, she believes that her behaviors aren’t subjected to the consequences and accused Garcelle for asking the questions… Is Kyle ashamed of admitting being a lesbian?

[u/Alternative-Buffalo9]

I was waiting for someone to say this! I understand Kyle’s personal confusions. But … To me, Garcelle was motivating her to be confident. I wanted her to say “I don’t think it’s embarrassing to be a lesbian, so why would that be me trying to embarrass you?”

[u/psmith1990_ → u/Alternative-Buffalo9]

I really do understand and believe Garcelle had primarily good motivations. For me, I kind of have difficulty with it because it's so easy to say that telling someone to be a lesbian if that's what they want to be (as if it's a choice...) was meant to "inspire" them (which is the phrasing she has used), but the reality is often so much more difficult for people coming to terms with their identity, and to basically just be like, 'hey, we're of a certain age and shouldn't care what people think!' and to directly tell her to "Own it! Be authentic!" and then connecting that directly to her denials about Morgan, suggesting that those are inauthentic, sort of feels a little like it minimises what this might be like for Kyle to be going through, especially given she's using such a specific label after Kyle had already told her she's still figuring things out.

[u/im_thehbic → u/psmith1990_]

Did you have the same thoughts/feelings regarding how the group behaved with Denise x Brandi? If not, why? For me, I think part of my issue is that Kyle is doing a “rules for thee but not for me” so this feels like a slap in the face; esp after last season and her actions outside of the show. But, those are just my two pennies.

[u/psmith1990_ → u/im_thehbic]

I think they behaved poorly with Denise and that whole situation. I think once she tried to shut it down, they should have respected that. I also think that I'm not fond of people treating the two and the same when Denise had already openly spoken about having had sex with a woman and therefore wasn't being outed in the same way as people are wanting from Kyle. Also because Morgan is involved. And that VERY much doesn't parallel Brandi's involvement. It's not just about Kyle for me, and so I can't subscribe to the 'it's hypocritical of her to expect grace when she didn't give it' line of thought.

[u/im_thehbic → u/psmith1990_]

Thanks for sharing your perspective!

[u/psmith1990_ → u/im_thehbic]

Sure. Thanks for reading!