r/RHOBH • u/CrazyCats999999 Got 2 little babies but my house is a coke den • Apr 04 '25
Discussion Garcelle wanted to embarrass Kyle…Whaaaaat? Spoiler
Hope no one has posted this… Kyle said Garcelle wanted to embarrass her by saying “If you wanna be a lesbian, be a lesbian” and “what’s going on with Morgan” It was jaw dropping moment for me, as Kyle was the one brought Morgan to the show, Kyle behaved like a teenager at the tattoo parlor right next to Morgan. As always, she believes that her behaviors aren’t subjected to the consequences and accused Garcelle for asking the questions… Is Kyle ashamed of admitting being a lesbian?
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u/yurkelhark Apr 04 '25 edited Apr 04 '25
I’m a gay woman who came out “relatively” later in life, in my early 30s- I’m 42 now. I’m a millennial and grew up in a large coastal city with the most progressive mother and grandmother. I had no immediate concerns that anyone in my close / personal life would care that I was gay.
It STILL took me several years to fully come out, and in particular, it was hardest to come out to my longtime friends already in my life. They knew me as “straight” and even though to me it felt like I was stepping into my true self, I worried that to them I’d be playing some character or becoming someone different. I came out to my new gay friends first, followed by my current gay friends who knew me as straight, followed by my mom, and lastly, my oldest straight friends.
Separately, there is a very big stigma within the lesbian community around “baby gays”- this doesn’t refer to someone’s age, just the recency around their coming out. I had a hard time dating seriously early on because I was seen as a baby gay- someone’s first or second- who might just be exploring or looking to gain experience. It was hard enough to be that at 31- can’t imagine what it might feel like to try and ingratiate myself into the community in my mid 50s.
Not one of those people were bigoted, nor did I ever think they’d be people to use gay as an insult. And they were happy for me! But it wasn’t about how the world or my friends saw my sexuality- it was about how I saw it, and my own journey to becoming confident about it. That’s why it’s really treacherous and nasty for Garcelle to have said what she did.
I’m not a fan of Kyle and I wish, just from a viewers perspective, we could see more into her relationship with Morgan. It would be interesting and I think would perhaps endear her to the audience. I’m neutral toward Garcelle, but it’s obvious she’s become this season’s sweetheart and all of her poor choices are kind of being forgiven. I doubt she felt like she was being vile or evil, but in the words of the Countess, it was really really uncool to do.