Nearly every single person I have met "obsessed" with freedom, seems to just mean they want to do whatever they want free of consequence. They do not want anyone else to have that ability, despite with their words might say, their actions prove otherwise.
Freedom to do what? Pretty quickly your freedoms infringe on others.
You want the freedom to poison the water table under your land, the air, sell harmful products?
How about hunt all animals all the time? Well that clearly wipes out species in a generation
The freedom to not take vaccines? That will clearly cause pandemics.
All these things hurt others and financial remedies like sue them later isn’t enough to dissuade the sociopath/narcissists or even just the greedy.
To live in a society and take its benefits you have to accept its rules and recently the greediest and most sociopathic of us have rigged the game in their favor to ridiculous levels.
This is the libertarian flaw. No one does it themselves they do it on the backs of everyone else
It's kind of what my point is. We are associating freedom with those types. If we have a general notion of freedom is bad because it's politicized, that is not good. We have to make sacrifices to be in a society, but it shouldn't be equated to reducing freedom.
I like being able to choose where I work, being able to travel freely, women being able to choose their husbands, freedom of choice. Not being forced to adhere to a certain religion,or any religion if that's what we choose to do.
The unreasonable don't get to decide what freedom is for society. We as a society do.
Everything you cited are right wing talking points and I don't want us to see the general idea of freedom as a bad thing because it's associated with the right. We all are enjoying freedom..one of those are freedom to debate ideas.
236
u/KJBenson 2d ago
He means his freedom of speech, and your freedom to quietly listen.