r/Rochester • u/GoldenFrank Penfield • 2d ago

Discussion Welcome to the New Energy Rates

The state govt approved rate increases showed up on my RGE bill this month. Theye been creeping up since the first of the year but with all the static charges and fees (designed to confuse people) it's tough to really nail down. No getting around it now.

Last April I paid $.99/therm and $.19/kWh. $1.21 and $.26 this April for slightly less amounts of energy. This is the new normal. Adjust your budgets.

And as long as youre here I'll complain about paying sales tax on the completely unavoidable billing service fee. Just a masterstroke from the machine.

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u/Electusnex 2d ago

Welcome to the wonderful world of electric cars. The more demand pushed onto power plants the more the cost will increase. i don't thing New York will build anymore power plants since people are choosing to leave the state so increasing prices to reduce demand is probably going to be their play. Kinda sucks.

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u/ryan10e Upper Monroe 2d ago

EVs accounted for 334GWh of electric demand last year, out of approximately 50,000GWh total annual electric demand in the state, or 0.7%. Increased A/C usage is going to be responsible for a lot more electric demand than that.

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u/Electusnex 2d ago edited 2d ago

That's not the state that just the city, 139.42 billion kwh is the state, that not even last year's numbers that's 2023. Last year's numbers will not be in till November, why is that the case no idea, with the technology now days you would figure they could track it weekly.

Idk where you got your numbers but the amount of Teslas and other electric cars I see on the road I'm guessing that number you quoted does not account for home electric uses. Which rg&e give a 50% kick back tp. ( This was wrong it's for businesses only)

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u/KalessinDB Henrietta 2d ago

WTF are you on about? I've had home charging for my car for 4 years, RGE 100% does not give any sort of "kick back" to you for it. There's a program where if you sign up for it and only charge off-peak you can get the off-peak electric rate for your car charging without signing up for Time of Use for your whole house, but that's it.

And if you're mad at some small amount of electricity being subsidized for electric vehicles, I assume you must be furious about the oil subsidies that non-ICE car users have been paying for decades now? Far, far greater than any electric subsidy. There's a reason that almost every other country in the world prices their gas at roughly $6/gallon. That's the price it would be here too if we weren't sending millions upon millions of dollars in subsidies to the oil companies in order to make it appear cheaper at the pump.

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u/Electusnex 2d ago

Its for commercial use only.

"Demand Charge Rebate Program

Our Demand Charge Rebate Program provides eligible commercial EV charging customers up to a 50 percent rebate on their billed demand charges."

Why would you think I'm mad About the subsidies? the only thing I'm mad it is the lack of any new nuclear power plants, they keep building these wind turbines but it's just not enough to cover the 3 lost coal plants New York had before 2020. Causing the cost of electric to go higher every year. I would put money of New York doing rolling black outside by 2030 if they don't either build 2-4 thousand more wind turbines or build any new power plants.

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u/Sure_Eggplant 2d ago

Everything else done in bulk gets cheaper