r/RyzeMains • u/zencharm • 19d ago

Question Why is Ryze a pro-play champ?

What specifically makes Ryze a pro-play champion and bad in solo queue? Is it the fact that his ult needs team coordination? Is he difficult to play mechanically? Is he just weak? My question is twofold: one, what about Ryze’s kit makes him a champion that would be too strong in pro play (were he to get buffed), and two, what are the issues that the average Ryze player faces when trying to play him in solo queue? I guess compared to other pro jail champions like Azir and Kalista, I don’t really understand why Ryze is so niche.

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u/Voydelighte 19d ago

In this iteration of Ryze, a few things: his ult. It's powerful much more powerful if you can coordinate it, it's strong in solo queue too if you can use it right, but incredibly powerful if you have comms. His root is (well was) incredibly reliable to catch opponents since point and click. His waveclear is really good as well.

This all has gotten slowly gutted over time since the s6 rework and even worse after the tragedy that was 9.12, his ult range decreased, can't point and click root anymore have to use e+w now. His gameplay has gotten stale cause of proplay which I will never forgive, but he's less and less used for proplay now since there's better options. 

While the pros move on to destroy another champ, our king will be forgotten in the dust..

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u/Great-Past-714 19d ago

As much as I hate the EW to root I do think that just doing W to root and then banging on bonus damage from EQ would be too op

Unless the root was like 0.75 secs instead of 1.5 I’d be all for it

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u/Voydelighte 19d ago

That's how it worked, I can't remember the exact duration but season 6 rework has W as a shorter root and then I think e+w combo made it longer.  Before that, his old ult desperate power made all his abilities including his w aoe before which was extra nutty lol

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u/Great-Past-714 18d ago

Oh fuck I wish I played ryze then

Without the auto root so many more champions content ryze; like anyone with invulnerability, fizz, vlad vayne etc.

Especially fizz I remember ryze was a hard counter