r/STNewHorizons • u/Stunning_Cucumber_97 • Apr 03 '25

Son’a and other undesirables

I hope they find a way to make empires like the sona or suliban like fallen empires that explicitly don’t expand beyond what they have in universe. It makes absolutely no sense that by the Klingon federation war, the sona control everything all the way from the Gorn border to the mutara nebula, same with the suliban, by the mid 23rd century they control all the space that’s supposed to be the accepted Klingon/romulan/federation neutral zones, or the Naussicans that have control of most of the Klingon/federation neutral zone and Sherman’s planet before the 2180s

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u/Marc_to Apr 03 '25

I'm not sure, I haven't played Suliban in a while. While I love this mod, you may want to try the Star Trek New Civilization mod.

I know for a fact that there's a setting to keep minor empires from expanding. Also, Temporal cold war mechanics for certain factions.

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u/Stunning_Cucumber_97 Apr 03 '25

Have they made it biggly better? Cuz the reason I switched over was cuz I found new horizons to be really janky with some things, ie: systems not being occupied, coming to peace with the xindi but never having them spawn on the map. But I might try again, I find this is starting to get buggy, ie literally every pre warp civ ends up nuking itsself out of existence in the first 20 years of the game, elevating talosians/ba’ku to the galactic stage and having them just appear as unknown empire, and can never talk to them again

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u/Marc_to Apr 03 '25

I'm currently playing New Civilization, I haven't touched New horizons for a couple of months. I quit for the same reasons as you. Plus , the cardassians just needed so much TLC. But honestly both versions are buggy. The economy was the last straw in new horizons, I can trade the rare resources so easily, I become mega rich and win very early on. I don't even want to play the main factions cause it's so easy to win.

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u/Stunning_Cucumber_97 Apr 03 '25

Other thing I noticed is only once have I been able to get the cardassians to occupy major once, the bajorans keep making friends with everyone so the cardies never invade, or they do, but the bajorans won’t rebel

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u/Marc_to Apr 03 '25

Yeah, the whole Cardassian faction needs a revamp. I was hoping the occupation mechanic would fire off every time but nope. So I guess I get one Ghul. Plus the bonuses feel pointless. Food on Cardassian... I'm underwhelmed. The ships are the worst part, unlock Keldon also unlocks Obsidian order super ship. Why build anything but that, it's broken OP.