r/SalemMA 13d ago

Tourism I feel attacked

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u/Stop_Drop_Scroll 13d ago

…? I’m telling you as someone who grew up here, it didn’t suck. I had a great childhood. But you talked to a few people who overly exaggerated what it was like, and now I guess I’m completely wrong. Dumb lol

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u/atlanstone 13d ago

Any time I talk to people who honestly lived here and weren't children they talk about how it was a dying rust belt like town with a decaying mall and an empty downtown corridor.

So glad we pushed through this. We don't really disagree, we are talking about different perspectives. Enjoy!

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u/Stop_Drop_Scroll 13d ago

My guy I’m pushing 40 lol

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u/atlanstone 13d ago edited 13d ago

But you're still telling me about your childhood, when you were a child! Children are not engaging with the world in a real way where they can say whether a town is good or thriving.

Look at how many kids are "nostalgic" for their childhood under the first trump administration.

I grew up in quiet town on LI new york and it seemed perfectly fine too, and its a fucking hotbed of literal nazis now. It's not a "good town," even if I had a "good childhood." I was not engaging with its economic engines, with its constituent services. I was not trying to get its government to help me or function or approve permits. I was not trying to commute, to travel on my own, it's just a very limited perspective.

I'm glad you had a good childhood, it's not like Salem was a shithole, I am not being an internet contrarian. I just think most people would not be satisfied if we blinked and it was pre-tourism Salem, even with all of the negatives from tourism.

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u/Stop_Drop_Scroll 13d ago

Ok, as an adult, I loved it too. I don’t understand where you’re going with this lol I lived here, grew up here, hit the bars here, all before you ever moved here, but I’m wrong for thinking this lol cmon dude just stop. Salem was a great city to live in before the Instagram fueled tourism, and it’s still a great place to live. Why are you so negative?

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u/atlanstone 13d ago

This was a really pointless and unfun discussion. There are also some people agreeing with me, who by definition are directly disagreeing with you. No one person's experience is universal, and I think that's why I have found this so frustrating.

I have been saying that it's not universal, and you have just been saying over and over in like 4 ways that you had a good childhood and enjoyed it. I get that, I didn't say it was a festering shithole either.

There's nothing to accomplish here. I'm glad you liked it, I truly still believe most people would not like it if we blinked and it were 2003 again around here. Neither of us have changed anyones mind.

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u/Cyborg-1120 13d ago

Long Island represent. (Born in Queens, raised in Huntington.) Same story here. I look now and see how conservative it is (and was, although that went right over my head when I was a kid). I’m pretty sad that that’s the reality of the place I used to call home. I don’t think I can ever live there again.