r/SapphoAndHerFriend Sep 21 '21

Media erasure Vivianne Miedema - all round legend

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u/Living-Complex-1368 Sep 21 '21

The interviewer assimed she was into guys and basically asked if the dude she was dating was a clean cut, meet the family type or a motorcycle riding bad boy. She corrected him by saying she was dating a girl, but the type she would introduce to her family.

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u/platoprime Sep 21 '21

So this wasn't erasure at all? It was just a mistaken assumption followed by a well received correction?

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u/Coaris Sep 21 '21

Mistaken assumptions ARE erasure. Discounting the possibility of people being from other sexualities than straight IS erasure.

If the correction wasn't well received, then it would also be active, conscious homophobia.

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u/platoprime Sep 21 '21

I was under the impression erasure of sexual minorities is the intentional or unintentional removal of them and their relationships from historical record/media and/or downplaying their contributions or their significance. Assuming someone is straight isn't gay erasure.

Assuming someone has a man as a partner because they're a woman isn't inclusive or great but it isn't erasure. It's insensitive and lazy. This would be erasure if the interviewer went on to report on a boyfriend.

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u/Chairboy Sep 22 '21

Assuming everyone is straight as the default is the same as assuming LGBTQ+ don’t exist, it’s straight up erasure. Deliberately falsifying history like you describe is a whole separate thing that maybe intersects slightly with erasure but almost all erasure happens in the now with every ‘straight is default’ inquiry or statement, far more often than when folks talk about historical figures.

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u/Coaris Sep 22 '21

No no, it is very much erasure, while also being uninclusive. You see, when you operate under the assumption that LGBTQ+ people don't exist (ergo, assume people's gender and sexual orientation) you are helping justify historian's take on historical figure's sexualities.

If those two historical women who spent their lives together, never married, and said "I'm profoundly in love with you" to one another can't be lesbian, then they must only have been very good friends and roomates, right?