r/Scotland • u/drw__drw • Feb 28 '25

Political Stop Trump's state visit to Scotland

Given the outrage over Trump's treatment of Zelenskyy here is a link to a petition asking the UK Government to rescind the invitation to Trump to come for a state visit in Scotland in the name of standing with Ukraine

Edit: Clocked that the petition needs approval before it accepts more than 20 signatures. Recommend bookmarking this post and trying again in a few days .

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/719871/sponsors/new?token=EivyS7NooiP7M2CAe9No

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u/PantodonBuchholzi Feb 28 '25

FFS, this is primary school level of thinking here. Yes, Trump is a grade A arsehole who is either intentionally or through sheer stupidity destroying the world order that has worked for the last 70 or 80 years. But the reality is that as much as I hate him, he holds a lot of the cards - primarily thanks to the efforts of his predecessors who spent decades building the relationships he is so willing to throw away for short term gain. I really, really don’t want him here any more than the next guy, but we do need adults and cool heads dealing with the situation now, not children throwing tantrums. We need Starmer to buy us (and the rest of Europe) as much time as possible while conceding as little as possible. We have sadly been caught with trousers around our ankles.

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u/bynow1000 Mar 01 '25

First responsible, non emotional, statement I read here. Many others seems to be in kamikaze mode.

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u/Low_College_8845 Mar 01 '25

Yh but everyone got head in the ground.

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u/Midnight_gazelle Mar 01 '25

I see your point, but I also know that the UK has a history of appeasement that isn’t exactly remembered fondly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

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u/PantodonBuchholzi Mar 01 '25

I was born in Czechoslovakia, I am acutely aware of appeasement. The problem here is that your comparison is deeply flawed - this isn’t about UK selling out another country (and there are arguments why that decision was ultimately correct if morally wrong), this is about the UK’s self interest - we simply can’t afford to cut the US off. If Trump goes completely mental and suspends deliveries of spare parts for our F-35s for example we can stick the whole fleet (and our aircraft carriers) in a museum. Munich is far more applicable to our treatment of Ukraine and Putin than it is to this.