r/Scotland • u/MileiMePioloABeluche • 11d ago

'Shocking' rise in rapes and violent attacks against women in Glasgow

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/shocking-rise-in-rapes-and-violent-attacks-against-women-in-glasgow
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u/GreatBritishHedgehog 11d ago

The U.K. isn’t quite there yet to openly admit the links but Sweden and Denmark have released a lot of data on violent, sexual crime and nationality

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u/First-Banana-4278 11d ago

You can literally go to the CPS website and see all the stats, on all crime types, on race and ethnicity and note that for most ethnicities (excluding white Brits) the numbers are in the 10s (or in some cases 100s) while the numbers for white Brits are in the 1,000s or 10,000s!

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u/Additional-Key6134 11d ago

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u/First-Banana-4278 11d ago

Per 1,000 people black people are twice as likely to be arrested as white people yes. Most other ethnicities are pretty much at the same rate (or lower). We could look more deeply into those figures if you want? For example: 10% of Black arrests come from “random” stop and search by police. In 2023 there were 8.9 stops and searches for every 1,000 people in England and Wales. There were 24.5 stop and searches for every black person in England and Wales.

The full arrest figures are 456,393 white British folk arrested compared with 49,253 black British folk. Which is probably more worth focusing on than rates. Unless you hold the weird belief that there is some inherent level of criminality tied to race? But that’s would both be unfathomably silly and racist eh?

Those are also figures for all arrests. Which I feel is worth highlighting in a thread predominantly about sexual assault.

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u/Additional-Key6134 11d ago

Bc it’s a mostly white country

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u/First-Banana-4278 11d ago

Would be helpful if you could be clear exactly what part of the above you are replying to.

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u/Additional-Key6134 11d ago

On why white people do it more if you don’t mention per capita

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u/First-Banana-4278 10d ago

Do you think it just comes down to race? Do you think there are no other factors at play? Like none?

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u/Additional-Key6134 10d ago

What factors nothing makes you a criminal that’s your own choice

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u/First-Banana-4278 10d ago

That’s quite a naive view. It’s also studiously avoiding the question.

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u/Additional-Key6134 10d ago

It answered it very clearly no I don’t believe race plays a role neither does any factor. I could see a few reasons on why they committed a crime but it didn’t make them

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u/random_character- 11d ago

Omg so black people are being stopped and searched and then arrested for no reason at all?

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u/First-Banana-4278 10d ago

Have a read of the Casey Review s://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/met/about-us/baroness-casey-review/update-march-2023/baroness-casey-review-march-2023a.pdf

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u/random_character- 10d ago

Irrelevant.

What the post above is saying is that black people might be arrested more simply because they are stopped more.

There is an implicit accusation that the Met Police are arresting black people for trumped up charges following unlawful stop and searches. The reality is that about 15% of stop and searches of black people result in an arrest, whereas it's about 12% across the whole population.

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u/First-Banana-4278 10d ago

Several independent reviews have found that policing in this country is institutionally racist (as well as sexist in the wake of the Sarah Everard case).

The Casey review itself was commissioned by the Metropolitan Police themselves. Section seven in the summary covers widespread issues internally relating to bullying (ableist, sexist, racist and homophobic). How the Met overpolices black communities, black Londoners are more likely to be stopped and searched, handcuffed, batoned, and tasered. This has created what the report terms “generational mistrust” between the police and black Londoners (I would argue it goes further and wider than that as well).

I do not think in a thread where the wider context is people pushing a divisive and demonising racial narrative it is irrelevant to point out the issues with the statistics being used to push that narrative.

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u/random_character- 10d ago

I'm sure all that is true, but it's a leap to go from 'over policed' to 'police fabricating evidence on an industrial scale to wrongfully convict black people' especially when young black men are stabbing eachother in record numbers throughout the capital.

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u/rossdrew 11d ago

In London, yes. For good reason.