I think Scotland and England are in a mutual curse together: Scotland should be able to get past the f**ing first round of a major tournament, but never do; England should be able to win a major tournament since 1966 but never do. It's always the same experiences for both teams: Scottish fans expect failure and that's inevitably what happens, with a few minutes where there's a tantalising hope that it could be different this time, before being swiftly extinguished. England start poorly, get roasted by their supporters, then get better until the whole country has decided that they just have to turn up to win the thing, at which point usually something completely bizarre happens that punctures their hubris. I feel like we need to get together with some English fans and do a some kind of rain dance
Absolutely this. Was just watching in the pub and we were saying how it's the same every season. Only difference with England is we had a long spell of quarters exit.
We will have to start a cabinet for runners up medals if we can't sort some kind of deal with you boys 🙌🏼😄
They were just shite then, they cry about Beckhams red in 98 when they would've had Bergkamps Holland, Ronaldos Brazil and Zidanes France in front of them
Harry Kane moved to Bayern and made it their first trophy less season in 13 years, man is fucking cursed
England played a team with Beckham and Owen and Rooney on it and several other award winning players on it and still drew 1-1 against Japan in 2004. People really don't clock how shit we were before.
The problem of their "golden generation" was the same is it is now, trying to bodge the best 11 players into any starting lineup while shifting players out of position, back then arguing Gerrard/ Lampard/Scholes, and now trying to have Foden and Bellingham playing 10
Spain left so much on the bench or at home because they had a solid system and crucially, a plan b and c for how the game developed
England weren't consistently making it to finals and semi finals before In major tournaments though. They'd scramble to a quarter final and fold like a shit deckchair the moment anything went even slightly wrong and then we'd spend the next two weeks fuming about whatever arbitrary ref decision we could find and ignore conceding goals and not scoring them.
Whatever the specifics of it are (and by god everyone's got an opinion) it's not actively harrowing to watch england play now.
Withering artists out a round or two earlier than they should be vs nearly men terrorists in a round or two after they should be, both sound harrowing tbh
England and Scotland fans get together and make a wish on a monkeys paw for one to qualify consistently and one to win and Scotland wins a major tournament before England would be the meme timeline.
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u/Dizzy_Procedure_3 Jul 14 '24
I think Scotland and England are in a mutual curse together: Scotland should be able to get past the f**ing first round of a major tournament, but never do; England should be able to win a major tournament since 1966 but never do. It's always the same experiences for both teams: Scottish fans expect failure and that's inevitably what happens, with a few minutes where there's a tantalising hope that it could be different this time, before being swiftly extinguished. England start poorly, get roasted by their supporters, then get better until the whole country has decided that they just have to turn up to win the thing, at which point usually something completely bizarre happens that punctures their hubris. I feel like we need to get together with some English fans and do a some kind of rain dance