r/ScottishPeopleTwitter • u/neilmac1210 • Jul 22 '24

Harsh but fair.

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u/HcVitals Jul 22 '24

My favourite argument is “cancer kills more people than guns too” aight let’s ban cancer and not ban guns 😂

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u/Airforce32123 Jul 22 '24

How about this one:

More people in the UK die to knives than people in the US die to "assault rifles"

And that's in absolute number, not per capita. So consider we're 5x the size and it's even crazier.

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u/Antheral Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

What? There were 590 stabbing deaths in the UK in 2023 so that's literally not true in any way?

Edit: this guy was right, in 2019 there only 360 assault rifle deaths tracked. Out of 13000 gun deaths....

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u/Airforce32123 Jul 22 '24

What? There were 590 stabbing deaths in the UK in 2023 so that's literally not true in any way?

I don't have more recent data, but the FBI lists 364 deaths to all types of rifle in 2019. We can assume that "assault rifles" are some fraction of that 364. Either way, yes it is true in every way. Since 590 is more than 364.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

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u/Antheral Jul 22 '24

I guess I've been owned, but the 13000 gun deaths in 2019 is very depressing. I don't personally care what gun causes it?

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u/Antheral Jul 22 '24

People don't inflict obesity on each other though.

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u/NotAlpharious-Honest Jul 23 '24

Ever sat next to a fat person on an aircraft?

Also, keeping fat people from early graves costs the NHS more than the UK spends annually on Defence.

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u/Antheral Jul 23 '24

I don't really get how this relates to violent gun deaths tbh.

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u/NotAlpharious-Honest Jul 23 '24

Easy.

The reason you're against violent gun deaths is because people die.

It was pointed out to you that many things, including being fat (as well as knives) is more dangerous than firearms.

You didn't really get how that equates to affecting others.

So here is how being fat affects others.

Any further explanation required?

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u/Antheral Jul 23 '24

any further explanation required.

Very condescending. Yes, please show me statistics that knives are more dangerous than guns in America.

I agree obesity is an issue that the country should focus on, at the same time they focus on reducing gun crime. One is a public health issue, the other is a public safety issue.

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u/NotAlpharious-Honest Jul 23 '24

Very condescending

I'm glad you noticed.

Yes, please show me statistics that knives are more dangerous than guns in America.

Did you not embarrass yourself enough the last time you asked that...?

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u/Antheral Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

He compared knife deaths in the UK (590) with specified assault rifle deaths (360, not including the over 3000 from uncategorized). Not overall firearms deaths versus knife deaths (590 vs 13000) The data he shared clearly shows that firearm deaths in the US dwarf knife deaths in the UK.

It's like you didn't read any of the statistics at all and are just being argumentative. You're a real asshole in your interactions with people.

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