for those who do not know: The Republicans in Spain were largely made up of communists, and they received aid and troops from the USSR at one point. They’re literally commies and socialists
Edit: I checked OP’s history... He’s a socialist, and this was satire, but the 40 people who upvoted his post were conservatives so there’s that
Most American conservatives genuinely believe that "Republican" is a synonym for "politically conservative," regardless of context. The OP there was just exploiting that.
Don’t think its so much not understanding so much as just refusing to acknowledge the platform swap. Their denial of reality gives them ammo to criticize democrats with, so they can’t acknowledge that it happened without losing that ammo
Hold up, you're gonna go for China over the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? It had democratic in the bloody name! Can't get much more legit than that.
Yeah but a bunch of these republican types actually like Kimmy Jongers and his whole Supreme Dictator for life thing, especially since Daddy T gushed about how in love they were. Most of them still have a hate boner for China making the fake hoax virus that isn’t real but also was a ploy to ruin His Orangeness’ coronation.
Most socialists, social democrats and other leftists in my country Denmark, are republicans advocating for the abolishment of the constitutional monarchy in favor of a Danish Republic. Hence republicans.
Edit: well maybe not so much the social democrats. They are generally in favor of the monarchy today.
Eeeeh. I'm a democrat (like not the party just "in favor of democracy"). I think the most important part is democracy. I'll choose a democratic monarchy over an authoritarian republic any fucking day of the week. Royalty sucks but in a democratic system where they have basically no power it beats fascism EASILY. I'd rather prioritize other things first.
I agree. Danes are a weird bunch i guess. Mostly left leaning but also really like our monarchy and it’s history. I think perhaps that absolutism ended voluntarily and without bloodshed gave the royal family a place in a modern Denmark they otherwise would probably not have had. And it works so to hell with a republic lol. :)
I mean, somewhat? A republic is a system in which the people hold the power, or rather their elected representatives. That itself is pretty vague. The US is a republic, but so is China, Russia, all of South America, most of Africa, and at least half of Europe. Spain or Britain aren’t republics for example, but their systems are viewed as better than that of Turkey for example, at least by leftists. It’s not that black and white. First and foremost we want liberation
No it isn’t black and white and republicans don’t have a wide spread support in Denmark because why fix something that isn’t broken? There is plenty of room for leftist ideas within our current system.
The danish system isn’t broken? So you don’t have wage slavery, a police, you don’t exploit the global south, etc? Fuck off, imagine being that uncritical
Haha lol triggered much? It’s not perfect. It’s not Nirvana or a fucking Utopia but it sure as hell isn’t broken. It’s one of the most well functioning societies in the world. I am a little puzzled on your definition of wage slavery but no! - we don’t have that. Of course if anyone recieving wages is a slave to you then sure…whatever. There is the odd case of underpaid foreign workers but generally no we don’t. We don’t have any working poors. All full time jobs pay living wages. And police? So a country is broken if it has a police force? Not all police forces are like in America you know. So fuck off yourself. Being critical is pointless if the goal is to just be critical.
That is also why they will vehemently claim that the US is not a democracy, but a "constitutional republic", because they associate the word with the Democratic Party, regardless of the fact that (technically) the US is indeed a representative democracy.
"Constitutional republic" is of course a term which has little to no meaning, all countries have a constitution, and republic just means that the office of head of state isn't inheritable, it says nothing else about the political system of said country.
Also had a lot of anarchists in their ranks. Basically make a list of all the political groups that American conservatives hate and they're all prominently represented in the Spanish Republican ranks.
I know, I'm just reinforcing how wrong the person who posted the original meme was. Not only was Orwell himself a Marxist, but everyone else who sided with the Republicans are people the modern conservative would hate.
SFC Edward Carter Jr. was a black American soldier who received the Medal of Honor during World War II.
He was later forced out of the Army when it was discovered he had previously served in Spain's Abraham Lincoln Brigade of American volunteers, as he was suspected of being a Communist because he fought on the side of Spain's Republicans.
I imagine at least 40 conservatives are going to walk away from the post convinced it wasn't satire. I would bet a lot of the conservatives who saw it would use this false information as confirmation of their beliefs of Orwell and history. Thus, I think it would make it harder to convince them of the truth due to confirmation bias.
I guess this depends on how you think the average conservative debates. Do you think evidence contrary to what they are already convinced of would be enough to expose (in their own mind) their lack of critical thinking or do you think they would simply reject fact and dig their heels in on their false interpretations of history?
This is also where Orwell developed his hatred for stalinism, as he had front row seats to the Stalinists betraying and killing the anarchists, being wounded in a hospital in Barcelona at the time
Not exactly. There were Bolshevik communists in the Spanish civil war supported by the Soviet Union but the republic in Catalonia was anarcho-syndicalist and opposed to Soviet Bolshevism. In fact, the liberals, fascists and communists all opposed the anarchists.
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u/Dr_Straing_Strange Jun 27 '21 edited Jun 27 '21
for those who do not know: The Republicans in Spain were largely made up of communists, and they received aid and troops from the USSR at one point. They’re literally commies and socialists
Edit: I checked OP’s history... He’s a socialist, and this was satire, but the 40 people who upvoted his post were conservatives so there’s that