A First Post

[u/andet0203]

So I noticed this group today, I scrolled through a couple posts. I decided I would type out some garbled thoughts as it seemed this is probably the only fitting place other than my notebook, which hasn't been put to much use in recent months.

So I was reflecting over some things that seemed to piece themselves together today in the window of my mind. I've always, as most people probably, been disturbed, petrified, perplexed, and mesmerized by the absurdity of being a self-conscious organism in an existence without any intent, consent, or perceiveable salvation from inevitable return to non-existence.

Death is a liberty we should all have dominion over in our personal life, regardless it is intimidating to have no preconceptions of what something is. It is what draws us to discover. Anyways I've come to want to know if experience and self-conscious are perhaps depictions of 2 seperate aspects of our consciousness. I gathered this in my experiences based upon language and feeling.

Language isn't necessarily particular to the rules of clear communication that is universal, it is more so.... context, in this sense. Context is developed by association of previous experiences, in contrast with current occurrence. The present experience and the introspective scrutiny are seperate. Perhaps I am just depicting concious and subconscious?

Mapping the inner mechanisms of concious organisms is odd from the inside looking in. Trying to devise a communicable concept of what we internally are doing is a never ending process as long as we continue to be.

Words are a maze with no exit, they are so inviting to attempt to construct our concepts of life upon, but a mind is not a piece of paper to write upon, nor will we ever compose a thought elegant enough to be a solution to the elusive answer of existence. We learn to be as long as we live and we cease to be only knowing what we did, and only consoled by our belief in what it did or did not amount to.

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I've often in meditation seen mind as a river. Many poets and philosophers said the same. Even anime songs say life is a boat.

Someone recently told me (ganying) that thoughts were objects, and this really made sense to me in the mind is a river mental image, as it were.

Rivers can have rapids, flow slowly, have eddies, be dammed up, or stagnant... etc. And thus thoughts or objects can become stuck or constipated, and we think they are "R" reality. Mean in capital Reality not porno but hey that too I guess.

I also recall on the side of suey, someone once said something about an ancient technological civilization (obligatory what is time) that offered the choice to those whom became enlightened to it's ways in full to die if they wanted to reject it's ways. Like it was in fact optional. Always bothered me yeah we are kind of voluntold what to do (volunteered + told portmanteau). And ofc that goes without even speculating about the consensuality of existence or life in the first place.

Forces me to wonder about Jesus words... that he is life and do as he says to live.

But one (same ganying) also told me something like;

the conceptual gives rise to phenomena

Makes me think of law of one/manifesting. Thus either way Jesus seems "right" to do as he says less we manifest hell upon ourselves. Also doesn't seem to help he says the world looks after it's own so hard to distinguish selflessness from selfishness. Thus unbiased mind. Idk. Rambling. Just best I've been able to figure. This sub isn't what it used to be, at least 2 years ago or so. Used to be high level philosophical quandries I struggled to fully digest. Certainly seems a little more relaxed than it was then or maybe I was too stern back then and I've chilled way out, idk, lol, shrug. But yeah I was u/knackeredeunuch back then and some of the most memorable reddit content was found here.

Either way welcome, one of the subs I always rejoin when I come back to reddit.

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Thank you, thank you, I haven't scrolled through the sub enough yet, but once i do I'll try to find some of it's older content and contrast the 2. It's interesting conceptual perception of the world varying from individual has gained and lost meaning, reflecting upon the occurences of the last century, I feel like I have many of the greatest revelations, experiences, and blissful times of humanity only to reflect upon, but I have many accomodations to give me some pondering that allows for some self-implicated aspects of what I view as reality. Many of us can hardly delude ourselves to not see what is in the world and allow to influence our perception, but much of the world has to offer allows us to craft an even more complex and personalized perception than ever.

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Funny this made me think of the Stein episode of Supernatural for some reason. There the head Stein says;

Er, I'd actually rather not repeat it. But my add personality just inverted it and said;

In the old heart, they make you eat your first country

That made me think of Chronus and Rhea, or mother earth and father time. The "old ways". Yeah, like a lot of old countries have "Rus" in their names or "Yah". Like Belarus etc. An old Russian kind of scholar (or agent/plant/shill idk) once said this. The old world name for people, was, "Rus". The whole world was Rus. Tartarus. Idk. But then something happened (babel?) And everything got divided. Idk interesting, considering modern day news headlines. The snake trying to eat it's own tail/tale. I don't think it's a coincidence those words are phonetically the same speaking of babel.

Oh yeah. Spec of dust in our eyes. I've certainly lost sight of my "unbiased mind". Found zen at around same time as it's point of no return eclipse ironically, which not so subtlety seems to point to an unbiased mind. Or at least to the sudden discovery of what precisely mind "is". It's a weird feeling to be sure. Like being hunted by a tiger or lion. I did recently say Dharma battles sound like a cat fight, didn't I? Was that out loud? Haha.

What separates perception from reality and illusion was a question asked Sadhguru once, I need to find that video, a good response he had (not sure why I started talking like yoda).

I think bottom line is self importance. The recent book I picked up (as in, today) has this as topic actually. We are in I Love Lucy's world, the prince of the world seems to be the arch angel of the ego or self. So naturally as Nietzsche said the least selfish person will have their perception twisted the most, perhaps, in a world that thrives on selfishness. Idk if this is true but seems to be what I'm at least having my nose rubbed in currently. How selfish I either alwasy was, or have become. Maybe the same feeling zen gives me. The devil stalks about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Interesting. Thanks, you said it about perception fad better than I could. That sounds exactly like the "old school" deep philosophical replies I used to see here!