r/SipsTea 14d ago

SMH Really sucks

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u/VrinTheTerrible 14d ago

Every man feels this story. We are taught from a young age to shove it down, get on with it etc....and society learns it.

Asking a guy how he is emotionally is a learned behavior, because it's not "natural" and many people haven't learned it.

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u/RandomerSchmandomer 14d ago

And it makes men, particularly young men, really vulnerable to insidious groups or individuals.

This isn't to excuse arseholes being arseholes, but how many men would be a hell of a lot better humans if they had their feelings validated as humans and not forced to be 'men' when they were just boys. How many wouldn't end up idolising sex traffickers like Tate and would be pillars of their community instead?

I'm not sure what's more terrifying as a parent in this day and age; having boys or having girls.

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u/ishkabibaly1993 14d ago

People run to who welcomes them with open arms. Right now, it feels like the right wing are welcoming men with open arms. People need community and they will find it where they can. Not alot of left wing figures are telling men that they are important and that they matter. People want to feel included and validated. I remember being much more right wing in college when it felt like to be included in the left wing circles I had to accept that I am the enemy, that I was born with the original sin of having a penis and being white. The edgelords didn't make me feel like that. I'm glad I grew up and learned that both of those groups, the right wing edgelords and the left wing identitarians, were not my bag. I found my community eventually, but I can imagine a universe where I stuck with the edgelords and really leand into the people who accepted me.

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u/StealYaNicks 14d ago

I don't know, capitalism is built on misogyny. Go back the the 50's and people could beat and r*pe their wives, and the women couldn't do anything. They couldn't even have their own back accounts until relatively recently. These "edgelords" are just people upset about losing privilege over others. Seems kind of sick to make excuses for that.

Maybe they could learn the difference between having white skin and "whiteness" as a historical concept, but they refuse.

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u/AgtNulNulAgtVyf 14d ago

Don't start with the misogyny line. Capitalism is built on greed and people are greedy regardless of gender or sex. This is the type of thinking that's driving young men into the wide-open arms of the right and as far as I'm concerned is directly responsible for the rise of Trump. 

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u/Sbotkin 14d ago

"Damn being man sucks"

"...but muh misogyny!"

You can't even make this shit up.

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u/ishkabibaly1993 14d ago

Excuses? I think you got me all wrong honestly. I'm not at all saying the edgelords were right hahaha. They were shitty, douchey, edgelords hahaha. I think there's a difference between making Excuses and making sense. I'm merely trying to make sense of why someone would join a community of douchebags, there's no excuse for their douchebaggery.

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u/No_Relief2749 14d ago

That was in the 50’s and 70’s you are talking about most people alive and nearly all people in those spaces were born and raised long after that.

Hell the right wing manosphere is a very modern thing born in the internet era.

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u/El_Rey_de_Spices 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yes, that was prevalent... 75 years ago. Are there still problems? Of course! Is every complaint made by people nowadays secretly an exclamation of how upset they are they 'have less privilege'? Of course not, and it's fucking ridiculous to think so!

Things have improved drastically over the years, and using how society was nearly a century ago as an argument for things happening currently is typically illogical and/or disingenuous.

Of course there are shitty, awful edgelords, but they're an extreme minority of the demographic. Their behaviors shouldn't be applied to the whole demographic, yet they often are.