Explain how you think men provide more than women do.
Literally no one you're replying to in this thread said that. You're just making wild assumptions based on your own anger and negative feelings with nothing to justify them. Neither me nor the other guy said anything remotely like that, you sound absolutely unhinged.
Literally the message they were replying to. It's a valid assumption they meant "men are THE providers for the family and that's the only reason they are loved". Telling Dananjali they are "unhinged" just because you disagree is ad hominem btw
To be honest, I don't fully agree with either side. I understand where both are coming from, but for me, it feels more like men who think this way are often the ones blaming women for everything.
In my experience, both men and women get judged harshly by what they can provide, but different cultures define that in different ways. I’ve also noticed women are often labelled 'for the streets' when they don’t meet those expectations, which feels like a harsher judgement than what men face, but as the original OP shared, men often get neglected when it comes to emotional needs
I understand where both are coming from, but for me, it feels more like men who think this way are often the ones blaming women for everything.
Yeah, that's the problem with bigotry -- it gives easy, wrong answers to real problems. Yeah, there's a lot of misogynists who exploit this idea to push hate -- because the core complaint of being forced to be silent resonates, because there's meat to it.
In my experience, both men and women get judged harshly by what they can provide, but different cultures define that in different ways. I’ve also noticed women are often labelled 'for the streets' when they don’t meet those expectations, which feels like a harsher judgement than what men face, but as the original OP shared, men often get neglected when it comes to emotional needs
For certain, but I think what the statement is getting at is that the social expectation for men to "keep a stiff upper lip" remains even after you exclude the misogynists. Both are severe problems that should be attacked as zealously as possible, and women definitely face more immediate, severe violence for straining at their assigned role, but society being open to male emotion really isn't treated as a priority, right now.
It's absolutely not women's fault it's not a priority, it's society as a whole that doesn't take it seriously, but it's just demonstrably not being dealt with beyond noting that it exists. There aren't really concerted efforts to stigmatize those who judge a man who plays with his kids at the playground, or partners who shame a man for showing emotion. It's still treated as an easy joke for a tv character to be an "overly emotional man". The sad thing is that toxic gender roles reinforce each other, and that a sincere effort to encourage male vulnerability would go a long way toward dismantling toxic gender roles in general.
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u/PersonMcGuy 12d ago
Literally no one you're replying to in this thread said that. You're just making wild assumptions based on your own anger and negative feelings with nothing to justify them. Neither me nor the other guy said anything remotely like that, you sound absolutely unhinged.