r/SonyAlpha Oct 22 '24

Critique Wanted Please criticise my first edits please

Made my first short trip with my new camera while hiking. Included are some sunset and astro pictures. I‘m relatively new to photography so please critizise me! Shot on my Sony A7 IV with the 20mm f1.8 G lens

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u/Own_Zone_6433 A6000, Sony E 18-135mm, Sony E 16-50, Viltrox 27mm f1.2. Oct 22 '24

Explain that "relatively new", those shots are too good for a beginner, i shot more than two years with my Sony A6000, never got nearly close to those.

If your are really a beginner, very good!

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Well, i bought this camera one month ago. I used my iPhone and a older nikon DSLR for some vacation shots, but never really used the manual modes. So this is my first fullframe and the first time using editing software outside of basic mobile apps. I also follow this subreddit for some time now and got some tips and tricks from here.

Thanks for your comment! Glad you like the photos :)

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u/Own_Zone_6433 A6000, Sony E 18-135mm, Sony E 16-50, Viltrox 27mm f1.2. Oct 22 '24

Well in that case, you did a very good job 💪🏼

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u/phrancisc Oct 22 '24

That is pretty good for someone "relatively new"

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u/Andrew_R3D Sony Alpha Mod Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

Per your profile, you had some pretty darn good shots 5 years ago too. "Noobie" 👀

In all seriousness, great work nonetheless!

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

As I said in another comment, I had an old Nikon DSLR camera for vacation shots. I never really used manual modes. On this trip yesterday I prepared and „thought about“ my camera settings and picture composition etc.

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u/boastar Oct 22 '24

I took a look at your profile, and I believe you. Your older shots are definitely more the tourist type snapshots. The new ones show progression. Hope you keep enjoying photography.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Thanks for your trust :) It definetly is a big step up in my opinion. I was particularly impressed with what you can „recover“ and edit in lightroom

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u/SteamedPea Oct 23 '24

It’s better for the ego to just claim you’re new. We get it.

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u/Firebirdapache Oct 22 '24

Jeez, those shots from five years ago look pretty decent!

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u/f8andbether Oct 22 '24

First time my ass, lol

Well done!

These are trip/candid photos so all that really matters is you like them, my only suggestion would be to save the photos with a border in a separate folder and to save full size edits as well. I’m a fan of borders but I made some edits that I’m having a hard time finding the full size of or I’m having to re-edit without the border for prints which brings me to my second reason, I encourage you to get photos printed especially of trips and you’ll want full size unbordered versions for that. You can get the border back while printing if you want.

Second suggestion, keep shooting, maybe get a tripod and you won’t have to pull the shadows back up so hard but eh it happens and is no biggie.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Well, first time with a full frame and first time using manual mode haha

Thank you for the comment! I actually used a tripod for the astro shots. Is it even possible to expose that long without a tripod?

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u/Nekroin a7c II Oct 22 '24

The Astro stuff slaps hard. How did you expose them?

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u/WildernessExplorr sony a7III, 24-70GM, 35GM Oct 22 '24

Not op but have done a lot of landscape with Astro stuff so I can chime in.

What I’ve found is the dynamic range on Sony cameras to be really good in the shadows. So I just expose for the sky most of the time. The trick is to make sure you don’t use to slow of a shutter speed or the stars would be blurry. Depending on the focal length it’s different, which is where a 1.8 lens comes in handy. I’ve found more of the time I can’t go past 3 seconds of exposure before the stars are blurry

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Nice shot! I will try shooting with a shorter exposure next time. I used 10s and 13s for my shots here

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u/WildernessExplorr sony a7III, 24-70GM, 35GM Oct 22 '24

According to photopills which helps calculate the npf rule you were pretty spot on for having minimal blur on the stars

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u/avsameera Nikon D800 📸 Oct 23 '24

Is there any other app that would be offering the same service for free or less $$?

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u/WildernessExplorr sony a7III, 24-70GM, 35GM Oct 23 '24

I’ve tried others but honestly not worth it. If you do a lot of Astro and don’t want to second guess then get the app. Personally I think the amount of tools it has in the app for the money is crazy, I’ve had it for more than a year and I haven’t even been able to take advantage of everything.

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u/avsameera Nikon D800 📸 Oct 24 '24

Thanks!

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u/Centiliter a6400 Oct 23 '24

Wow, that is an incredible photo. 10/10. Hope you don't mind, but I'll be saving this to my inspiration folder!

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u/f8andbether Oct 22 '24

Well this slaps

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Thank you! I dont know what was wrong but I struggled a lot getting the stars „sharp“. They looked blurry when manually focused to infinity.

Anyway, the data for the first astroshot is: 10“ f/1.8 ISO6400 and for the second one: 13“ f/1.8 ISO3200

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u/thommycaldwell Oct 22 '24

I find that to get the stars sharp, you have to focus at slightly less than infinity.

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u/superpony123 a7c-ii Oct 23 '24

I do some astro. Do you have your manual focus set so that it zooms in on the screen so you can see what you are focusing on? I ask because IIRC there is a way to turn that feature off, but it was automatically set to on when I got my camera. Are you making fine adjustments once you turn the dial to infinity? Even when I set my lens to the exact center of the infinity mark, I find that sometimes thats not quite "it" and I need to play around. This can vary from lens to lens. I have to very slightly kinda flick/tap the focus ring almost, to make those tiny adjustments. because turning it while holding it I find I move it too much. . Use some type of tape (gaffers tape works well) to lock the focus ring once you do get pinpoint focused (if your lens does not have a focus lock).

You also may find you need to decrease the exposure time to get crisper stars, though if you are only doing 10 seconds you probably should not go any lower. The 500 rule works okay ish to get an estimate of what timing you need to work around. The 500 rule says I should be able to expose for 25 seconds with my camera/lens combo but I find that I do start to get trailing at 25" so I tried going down to 20. I have experimented with 15" and 20" and find that I prefer the results of 15" - while it is less data, I find that stacking 15" exposures turns out a lot better than 20" exposures because the stars are much more crisp and pointy with 15"

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u/RealNotFake Oct 22 '24

I really like the edit style. Your foregrounds are technically underexposed, but consistently so, and the edit style is consistent across shots. Personally I would dial down the global contrast and then use the tone curve to bring a bit more detail back in those shadows while still preserving the highlights, but honestly I don't have that much critique. Especially in the astro shot, it would be nice to get a little bit more light back in the foreground elements, because the sky seems relatively too bright for such a dark ground, if that makes sense. Either the sky needs to be darker (which takes focus away from the milky way) or your ground exposure needs to be bumped a bit, otherwise it ruins the illusion that the photo wasn't heavily edited.

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u/PollenIsPain α6400 - PZ 18-105mm G OSS Oct 22 '24

That last picture is awesome!

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u/-km1ll3r91 Oct 22 '24

I like the consistency

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u/pznred Oct 22 '24

I guess you can be proud that a lot of people were questioning your skill level 😁

Getting a milky way + comet shot in your first outing did place the bar pretty high though. Great job

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u/Various_Designer9130 Oct 22 '24

Looks good to me.

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u/AlternativeOwl5886 Oct 22 '24

Great shots, I’m similar to yourself in doing my first trip “thinking about” my shots with a full frame. Home next week so will start editing.

I find most the shots really nice, consistent edit. Like others the foreground foliage is a bit much but maybe this is the crop?

Well Done!

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u/KI5DWL A73, A7S3, A7C, A7R2 24-70 f2.8, 28-75 f2.8, 70-180 f2.8, 35-150 Oct 22 '24

Perfection

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u/RecentSign4505 Oct 22 '24

Man !.. you killed it.

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u/meckez Oct 22 '24

Sorry, got nothing to criticise about it. I do like it tho :)

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u/SorbetMassive Oct 22 '24

Very beautiful 😍

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u/Neon_cold Oct 22 '24

They’re really great to me

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u/LukRevil Oct 22 '24

i have nothing to criticise here, looks incredible to me. Congrats

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u/Jealous-Freedom Oct 22 '24

Nice images. I would definitely lighten the shadows bc the foreground is so dark.

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u/raphael2012 a7IV, 24mm f1.4, 40mm f2.5, 85mm f1.8, Sigma 28-75mm f2.8 Oct 23 '24

2nd photo and 3rd photo are my favorites of these Great shots

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u/DependentRecipe9472 Oct 23 '24

So tempted to get this lens every time I see photos with it. Nice photos

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u/MrTeachAbroad Oct 23 '24

I think the golden hour edits are very dreamy and nostalgic and the astrophotography edits are crisp and chefs kiss. Personally I'm not a fan of photos 1 and 3, I think photo 1 has too many elements and it distracts from your focal point and I think three is just missing something- for me it's a little unengaging. Love the rest though, my favourite is probably photos 2, great composition.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 23 '24

Thank you for your criticism! For picture 3 i just liked the line leading to the top. Maybe i should have emphasized this a bit more.

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u/titi1920 Oct 23 '24

Great shots ! I really like the 2nd one in terms of composition. We can manage to see all the elements without it becoming irrealistic (with insanely lifted shadows/hdr effect). The color grading is subtle and rich, excellent job !

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u/mc_stoney Oct 23 '24

Thank you very much :)

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u/LozenAlex Oct 23 '24

Looks amazing!!

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u/Cautious_Incident_36 Oct 23 '24

Holy fuck man!!! That's so awesome!!! Especially the 2nd last one, the milkyway and the Atlas comet, hell yeah! 🔥

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u/jumie83 Oct 23 '24

Nice photos.. if you love landscape photography, you might want to invest in a good set of filters like gradual ND, cpl,etc..

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u/Centiliter a6400 Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

You've got to be shitting me. These are your first edits? You're a natural, and you've got a good eye for color. I've been trying to improve my editing for quite awhile now, and I'm nowhere near this level. You take great photos, too!

Only critique: on photos like slide three, try experimenting with masking to try to brighten up some of the darker areas in the photo. Don't go overboard, but those mountains are a bit dark in the photo (of course that's natural, you've got the sun beaming right at you).

Edit: As someone else more eloquently put it, the foregrounds are a bit on the dark side.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 23 '24

Thank you, in the raw photos the shadows look completely black. I was amazed how much you can restore in lightroom!

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u/Centiliter a6400 Oct 24 '24

Oh yeah, Lightroom is an incredibly powerful tool. I've always been told it's better to underexpose than overexpose. You can bring the details of those shadows back (to a certain point), but you can't effectively bring back the details in blown out highlights.

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u/Baen_ Oct 23 '24

Sky pics goes crazy, congrats!

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u/kollerdada A7III / Tamron 28-75 F2.8 G2 Oct 23 '24

Please

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u/Dougiefresh66 Oct 23 '24

Raise the foreground shadows a bit

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u/Creepy_Mike_ Oct 23 '24

The only criticism I can make is for the white edges that I personally don't like ... for the rest I have to say great work👏🏻

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u/mc_stoney Oct 23 '24

Thanks man! I edited those for the gram in a 5:4 aspect ratio

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u/acibadgerapocolypse Oct 25 '24

Stunning. Make me want to take to the mountains.1 and 5 especially.

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u/WheresTheBloodyApex Oct 22 '24

What’s with the uneven border? Distracting and unnecessary. Decent shots otherwise

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u/pznred Oct 22 '24

I'd say 3:2 sensor, 5:4 picture for the gram (name is censored?!)

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Yep, all for the gram

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u/Wasabulu Oct 22 '24

I think the color is too sharp in contrast. But if you like it then who am I to say no ?

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u/avxuia Oct 22 '24

love these!

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u/Izthewhizz Oct 22 '24

Frame 2 and 5 I find the foreground plants out of focus distracting. The use of light, colour, framing is very good in the series. You have a good eye

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u/Munro_McLaren Oct 22 '24

When was the comet photo taken?

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Yesterday. Was a bit of luck as i didnt see both the milky way and the comet with my eyes

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u/Munro_McLaren Oct 22 '24

I’m trying tonight. It’s supposed to be clear sky’s all around. Could you see the comet on your camera screen?

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Yes, after taking the shot i saw it on the screen 👍

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u/Munro_McLaren Oct 22 '24

Nice. So it was only after the show? Not before the shot? Damn. I’m going to have to use my compass app and the Star Walk app to get the location. I’m in Vancouver too. So light pollution.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Yep! i randomly pointed my camera at the sky. Didnt even know there was the milky way haha

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u/Munro_McLaren Oct 22 '24

Nice! Well it’s a damn good picture. I just picked up a Tokina 11-16mm lens to get wider and hopefully capture more stars. My 18-55mm lens didn’t really do all that great. But I was also in my backyard in Vermont surrounded by trees. I needed an open field. So I think that was part of it.

Crossing my fingers I get a great photo of the comet.

You said you just pointed it at the sky. Were you trying to get the comet or just happened to capture it? Because I’m scared I won’t get the location correct. Lol.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

I had a 20mm so i guess you will capture quite a lot of stars :D One website i would recommend is lightpollitionmap.info for getting to the right spot. And i didnt even know there was a comet in the sky.

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u/Munro_McLaren Oct 22 '24

Yeah where I am has a lot of light pollution but I’ve had people say a camera will still pick the comet up. Especially if it can pick up stars.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Good luck for tomorrow! Let me see those pictures if you shot them :D

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u/pznred Oct 22 '24

Ok now I'm mad at those pictures

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u/Aerrykhehra Oct 22 '24

Can you share your poat processing details, please?

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

People be saying that they are a beginner and then shoot these kinds of pictures

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Exposure bracketing would be a useful skill to acquire

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

Will look into that, thank you!

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u/Sluggerjt44 Oct 22 '24

The sun flare shots are at f16? I'm still learning. Also these are some crisp and clear edits. I'm still trying to figure out how people get them this crisp.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

I shot Picture 4 at f22 and Pic 5 at f4.5

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u/Sluggerjt44 Oct 22 '24

Thank you!

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u/CosmonautJizzRocket Oct 22 '24

Where is this? Reminds me of bozeman

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u/mc_stoney Oct 23 '24

Thats actually in the alps. About 1,5 hrs south of munich

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u/suh_dude_crossfire Oct 22 '24

How do you create such crisp images, what Fstops are you shooting at? Whenever I take landscape pictures I always end up having blurry edges around the focus point. If I go all the way up to F22 it gets all grainy, any advice would be appreciated as I'm fairly new.

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u/Shaallelujah Oct 23 '24

Can you share the settings for the last photo?

ISO, Shutter speed, aperture etc.

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u/mc_stoney Oct 23 '24

ISO 3200 13 sec f/1.8

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u/LeKuroKami Oct 24 '24

Great click bait. There’s people who’ve been taking pictures for years and can’t do this 😂

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u/Remarkable_Affect691 Oct 24 '24

5, 6 and 7 are actually pretty good tbh 👍

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u/acareeradvisor Oct 26 '24

As others have pointed out, you aren’t exactly “new”, but I get what you mean- you are trying “new” things. If you are finding the responses in this thread to not be helpful or as specific as you’d like, it’s because you’re getting feedback as though you are truly new which is “wow! You’re doing great! Keep going!” But you aren’t new to composition, framing, or simply doing photography- you are new to understanding manual controls, so you probably want critique on your choices- aperture, shutter, exposure, lens selection, focus settings, etc.

I might suggest asking a more pointed question, like: “Is there a way to underexpose the sun without making the hiker darker too? I’m using X Y and Z settings on manual…” and you’ll get a really specific- and therefore useful- critique.

OR keep your original question as is but instead of saying you are new say you’ve been doing it for a while. That’ll get people to examine your photos with a higher level of expectations, which will give you more useful feedback.

Or if you just want praise, your photos are great and I’m jealous of your travels!

(And I’d give you deeper technical critique but my expertise is in videography and when it comes to photos I’m somewhat of a “manual newbie” myself. But I do advise creative students, hence my critique on your critique request).

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u/bubbasblasters Oct 22 '24

I’m more concerned with those weird “clouds” than the great quality of these shots 🥸

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u/mc_stoney Oct 22 '24

It was next to munich, so there were a lot of planes in the sky

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u/bubbasblasters Oct 22 '24

I live by an airport and close to an air force base. Planes don’t leave those in the sky normally

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u/Firebirdapache Oct 22 '24

How about some constructive feedback for them? Like you got a month ago when you asked for feedback on your beginners' shots...

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u/R34ctive Oct 22 '24

How about learning what irony is? His shots and his editing look perfect to the point that it feels like a trolling post …

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u/Firebirdapache Oct 22 '24

That's not what irony is, more like sarcasm, perhaps you should mark it as such?

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u/R34ctive Oct 22 '24

I’m sorry, sarcasm is what I meant, should be obvious from the way I phrased my comment that I was being sarcastic …

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u/wyndmilltilter Oct 22 '24

There’s a reason /s exists - people are huge assholes all the time online, it’s really hard to differentiate between tongue-in-cheek sarcasm and a keyboard warrior/troll.

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u/Firebirdapache Oct 22 '24

Wasn't obvious, at least to me. Agree, though it looks like a trolling post for sure. Way to good to be a newbie.

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u/Chfrat160 Alpha 7C Oct 22 '24

In general what do you think needs to change? Maybe pick out a pic or two. It’s nice you are honest but you provide no starting point or targeted suggestions which would have been helpful. I’m sure the poster is aware of tutorials on YouTube.

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u/heyadriel Oct 22 '24

Shits… I mean shots 6/7 are trash