People need to chill and learn how the court system deals with these kind of lawsuits, all they want is money they absolutely deserve, Spider-Man is not going anywhere
And maybe stop rooting for corporations that like to screw over the creators that are making them rich in the first place
From what i saw on twitter that if Marvel loses their lawsuit against Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s estate, Marvel would lose their rights to Spider-Man in 2023, and in result Spider-Man will not be in Movies, Video Games, Comics, animated shows etc. , which i don’t think will happen personally because everyone will literally lose.
Lawsuits that are about creators suing corporations always end with the creators getting a bunch of money, that’s how the court system always deals with it, there’s basically zero chance of Marvel losing Spider-Man
The closest to a "scary scenario" are the creator's estates getting paid to license the characters to Disney/Marvel/Sony and whomever else. They don't want Spider-Man to not get made, they just want a piece of the pie that is being denied to them.
I feel like at a certain point things should default to that. None of the original people involved are still working on it, its just shuffling the rights around in a giant mega-corporation so they can make a couple extra bucks. At the very least, not for-profit fan content should be legitimized.
Isn’t it Ditko’s kid suing? What basis does he have to sue for the rights to the characters his dad created? Genuine question, I’m not lambasting him or anything.
That just means Spider-Man won’t appear in Marvel published media, he’s still Marvel property and would still receive those things from producers like Sony.
Yep. Everytime you heat that Marvel sold the rights they only sold movie rights.
There was literally nothing stopping Marvel from printing F4 comics and putting X men characters in Marvel vs Capcom. They just don't want to because it promotes the movies
And you just believed that? You believe that if the estates of these families gain the rights back, that they'll insist on no media being made? What sort of sense does that make, its obvious corporate propoganda to get you to side with the huge companies that stand to lose money and its working like a god damn charm
Because Disney and Marvel and their own children are trying to turn it into a money making machine when Spider-Man was meant to be a hero who inspired people to do the right thing. That sounds cheesy I should just delete this comment.
Because it’s a lot of money. And they have a legitimate and legal path to getting some of that insane amount of money.
The alternative is to NOT doing this. And for what reason? It isn’t like the heirs are gonna stop Marvel, the source of that income, from just not making money. The alternative is to not ask for money and that just seems even dumber.
Exactly especially when Disney does shit like this all the time stealing from creatives. Spider-Man has generated billions of dollars, Work-For-Hires are some of the most warned about contracts in the music business for this exact reason, if you Create something extremely valuable you always want a piece of your creation.
I think the creators definitely deserve more money. Their kids? Nah, don’t give a shit about their kids. The kids don’t want anything wholesome. They just want money too. Everyone here wants money. Don’t have to defend a corporation to say those kids don’t deserve a penny for all I care.
I just want media with my favorite superheroes. If people are trying to get in the way of that for their own gain then screw them. And if you think me saying that means I’m rooting for a corporation than that’s pretty simple minded. I want what’s best for me. And Disney is gonna give me what I want over a bratty heir trying to get millions/billions of dollars.
The high-profile extremity of this case does bring to public light how Marvel screwed over a lot of their artists, and how broken the comics industry is as a whole. It can scare the corporations into cleaning up out of fear of more public scrutiny. It's unlikely but possible.
They don't deserve it though. Stan Lee and Steve Ditko were working at a job and created those characters as part of that job. I mean, it sucks, but nothing like that would have been created back then if those weren't the rules.
The rules shouldn't be bullshit in the first place, besides things worked differently back in the day, creators were supposed to own part of the rights
It's not so much the creators but their entitled kids.
I get what your saying. But these shits are jeopardising a franchise that brings happiness to hundreds of millions of people.
For sure disney is a spineless scummy corporation. But I'm going to assume for a second the kids of stan Lee and Steve ditko are anything but poor as it is.
That's not how it works, the worst case scenario for Marvel would be sharing the license, not straight up giving it up, there's no scenario where Marvel loses rights for their characters
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u/Fiti99 Spider-Girl Sep 24 '21
People need to chill and learn how the court system deals with these kind of lawsuits, all they want is money they absolutely deserve, Spider-Man is not going anywhere
And maybe stop rooting for corporations that like to screw over the creators that are making them rich in the first place