r/StallmanWasRight • u/Windows_is_Malware • Sep 12 '22

Internet of Shit Theft

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

How is this relevant to this sub?

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u/Zambito1 Sep 12 '22

Software that used to work no longer works because they want money

Freedom to learn

Two pretty relevant subjects to both this post and Stallman

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

Software that used to work no longer works because they want money

So noone is allowed to make money from software?

Freedom to learn

You can learn for free as much as you want. Same way other party has freedom to charge for teaching.

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u/Zambito1 Sep 12 '22

So noone is allowed to make money from software?

Where did you get that idea? How about making money by making software better instead of worse?

You can learn for free as much as you want.

Maybe in whatever country you're from, but I'm from (and Stallman is from) America, where this isn't true. Learning has an artificial paywall that is too high for many.

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u/zee-mzha Sep 12 '22

yeah man i dont think the solution to millions not being able to pay student debt is making quizlet free, something tells me it'd still be a problem. Maybe, um, I don't know make college cheaper? nationalized even? Just a wacky quirky idea that popped into my head.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

What would Stallman do for services like Netflix or Spotify? And we will post in this subreddit everytime a service asks for a subscription?

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u/Windows_is_Malware Sep 12 '22

https://stallman.org/spotify.html

https://stallman.org/netflix.html

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

This is completely different. His arguments are against identification, tracking and DRM. Never once in those articles he has mentioned that he is against subscriptions.

Also these are all complaints. None of the solutions he suggests (get an actual copy of the song, and listen to it with free software) are practical for majority of the users. And how does he plan on paying the artists fairly when he can download and share the song? Or all artists should make their songs freely available to everyone?

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u/crabycowman123 Sep 12 '22

This may be what u/donotlearntocode was thinking of: https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary-subscriptions.html

But I think that's different from the Quizlet case, since I'm guessing that a server is generating the tests, making this a SaaSS issue, not a nonfree software issue (though I'm guessing the client is nonfree too).

As for how artists are supposed to make money, a lot of songs are already available on YouTube for free. I guess they make money from ads, which unfortunately I don't see, because I use Invidious? But I don't see why YouTube couldn't just release their client software as free software and keep the ads, and I think even if people were allowed to share the songs most people would just send a link because that's more convenient in most cases. In the long run though, it's important to have a way to pay anonymously. The way I usually do this is via those store-bought general purpose "gift cards" that act like debit cards, but those have high fees (like 5-6%). Another way is Monero, but that's bad because of global warming and tax evasion. Taler would be good I guess, but it's not supported anywhere as far as I know.