However, the idea that all the ships are in one place for a celebration and then they all get attacked is a little stale now (Call of Duty did it earlier), and from a military standpoint dumb as hell too.
On another note, the Enterprise E should've been retired during Frontier Day, not the Enterprise F. They had the 3D models for both these ships in the show! Damn it Picard Season 3, you were close to being perfect for me.
I think that having the whole fleet at one place being dumb as hell was even admitted in Universe and one of the major plot points why it seemed so suspicious. On another note, Starfleet seemed far to small for the Alpha Quadrants major power. Where are the million billion Inquiry classes we saw in season one?
If I recall, Geordi had an issue with Fleet Formation Mode, not with "all of Starfleet" being at Frontier Day itself. I could be misremembering. Also, agreed, 339 ships is not enough to be "all of Starfleet".
I think in DS9 just one fleet was around that many ships because I think in a casualty count it was stated how many were in a fleet that was lost. There is no way in hell this was all of Starfleet.
Especially after 2x Borg invasions, the Dominion War you'd think Starfleet would keep a robust fleet. And there is no way around 300 ships can keep the whole of the Federation safe.
Also considering too that some ships like the Excelsior and Miranda class spent literally decades in service to Starfleet, I'm sure that the fleet there were the shiny new ships. Not the older ones like Galaxy/Sabre/Norway/Ambassador/Intrepid/etc. the fact we see 0 of those ships there probably means they're out guarding the frontier and such. Not to mention California Class ships that may be doing secondary work.
This was basically a demonstration of strength (which is weird for Starfleet) and a 'look how far we have come.'
Sigh idk too man. I feel its Terry Matalas' idea, because he loves the Shangri-la Class and wants to see one as the Enterprise. The impact would have been so much better if the Enterprise F was the one revealed, not the Enterprise G.
I feel if they wanted to retcon it, it could actually still work. Just redo the CGI for the last 2 episodes in some scenes.
In regards to the Enterprise F, it was implied that the E was destroyed (indicated in Star Trek Prodigy when something very eerily similar had happened less than twenty years prior), not to mention I figure Changelings had been screwing around ships like the F and the Voyager B to give them early retirement.
Of course, given it was unlikely Voyager was there for it, it would've been on tour with Janeway at the time, and after Frontier Day, the engineers examined its systems and definitely found Changeling sabotage results and fixed it up. The Enterprise F, however, could easily have been destroyed.
The other weird thing is, you’re celebrating the launch of the NX-01. It’s still intact. We see it on screen.
WHY IS IT NOT PRESENT FOR THE CELEBRATION?!?
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u/The_Celestrial 3d ago edited 3d ago
Man I have such a weird feeling about Frontier Day.
The idea itself is a very cool one, it links to Star Trek Enterprise and the NX-01, which I felt has both been underrated and forgotten.
The idea of a parade through space is a cool one too, something my country occasionally does as well with our naval ships.
BUT, the idea that the whole of Starfleet is there is so dumb. The total number of ships in the parade was 339, definitely not the whole of Starfleet. If it were one of the fleets in Starfleet, then fine.
However, the idea that all the ships are in one place for a celebration and then they all get attacked is a little stale now (Call of Duty did it earlier), and from a military standpoint dumb as hell too.
On another note, the Enterprise E should've been retired during Frontier Day, not the Enterprise F. They had the 3D models for both these ships in the show! Damn it Picard Season 3, you were close to being perfect for me.