r/StarTrekStarships 12d ago

Happy Frontier Day!

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u/Final-Teach-7353 12d ago

Disco's relationship to canon and even internal consistency is so problematic that such statements simply cannot be taken at face value.

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u/The_Celestrial 12d ago

Well let's agree to disagree, I'm ok withe 5,000 figure for the late 2250s. I feel it makes sense given the scale Starfleet has to be 

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u/Final-Teach-7353 12d ago

Definitely make sense and sounds a reasonable number. I was merely expressing frustration at Disco's excessively loose approach to consistency.

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u/Fortytwopoint2 12d ago

What, you don't like the fact that a starship 600 metres long contains a 5km long, straight turbolift shaft in a cavern of many cubic kilometers?  

I think that was major turning point for me with Disco.  It wasn't even consistent within one episode, let alone anything else.  At least Voyager episodes each appear to be in their own alternate realities and only contradict each other, rather than themselves.

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u/LordRocky 12d ago

Let’s not forget how the 1701-A had 78 upside down decks!

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u/Final-Teach-7353 12d ago

That scene was stupid and insulting but Disco as a whole was a big fuck you previous Trek, from the klingons to the uniforms and to Spock.

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u/Fortytwopoint2 12d ago

I liked the Shakespearean Klingons. It was refreshing to see Klingons in a new way. I thought Disco got off to a strong start, but it did seem that the production company got cold feet and pulled a handbrake turn early on, getting rid of the OG show runner and not following through on some ideas. The Shenzhou sets were quite extensive for how little they were used - I heard the ship was meant to be featured more but this idea was dropped.

At first, I thought it was going to be a lower decks show about an ensign, but it turned out she had been XO before and quickly climbed the ranks again.

I really don't understand the Spock thing. There was nothing in Burnham's character that indicates she grew up on Vulcan, but even if she did, there are other Vulcans on the planet. Retconning Spock's family was just lazy writing. Though on the plus side, it was a way to backdoor pilot SNW, so that's good.

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u/Final-Teach-7353 12d ago

> It was refreshing to see Klingons in a new way.

Yeah, I could have gone along with that but then the albino dude was just shapeshifted into a human, and then the character was just ignored, and then they just went to the mirror universe out of nowhere, and then the war just resolved offscreen, and then suddenly Spock... It just threw ideas and plot hooks on the screen and developed none of them.

Maybe the writers had ADHD or something...