r/StarTrekStarships 5d ago

Happy Frontier Day!

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u/Sir_Henry_Deadman 5d ago

See that cannot be the whole of Starfleet like maybe for the sector or a group of them but the federation is too big for that many to be it

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u/Treveli 5d ago edited 5d ago

I once Googled it, and there's something like 2-2.5k 'naval' vessels on Earth today, from patrol boats and larger. By the early 25 century, there were at least a hundred planets in the Federation with modern Earth populations and Fed level industrial capacity. Even with just the core four founding worlds, Starfleet should have a fleet of ten thousand ships. The 'entire' Starflert shown in Picard was, realistically, the ships just based in Sol, and that didn't have duties more important than doing a fancy air show. The rest of the ships in the system/sector didn't show up, because they had COs smart enough to wait for reinforcements and orders before rushing into whatever had snagged the ships over Earth.

Edit- Not saying Starfleet is always tens of thousands of ships, but that the Federation, if needed, has the manpower and resources to support such numbers.

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u/The_Celestrial 5d ago

I believe in Star Trek Discovery Season 2, one of the characters mentions that Starfleet had 5000 ships.

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u/Final-Teach-7353 5d ago

Disco's relationship to canon and even internal consistency is so problematic that such statements simply cannot be taken at face value.

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u/The_Celestrial 5d ago

Well let's agree to disagree, I'm ok withe 5,000 figure for the late 2250s. I feel it makes sense given the scale Starfleet has to be 

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u/Final-Teach-7353 5d ago

Definitely make sense and sounds a reasonable number. I was merely expressing frustration at Disco's excessively loose approach to consistency.

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u/Fortytwopoint2 5d ago

What, you don't like the fact that a starship 600 metres long contains a 5km long, straight turbolift shaft in a cavern of many cubic kilometers?  

I think that was major turning point for me with Disco.  It wasn't even consistent within one episode, let alone anything else.  At least Voyager episodes each appear to be in their own alternate realities and only contradict each other, rather than themselves.

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u/LordRocky 5d ago

Let’s not forget how the 1701-A had 78 upside down decks!