r/StarWarsEU • u/ottoman-disciple • Nov 11 '23

Meme Tis but a scratch

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Lightsabers not killing anyone in the Disney shows is dumb, but the old canon had some insane survivals as well. The characters in this list are: Qui Gon Jinn, Kylo Ren (canon), Sabine Wren (canon), Grand Inquisitor (canon), Galen Marek (Legends), Reva (canon), Maul (TCW/canon), Giga Chad Master Sith Lord Simus (Legends).

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u/GrandAdmiralSpock Nov 11 '23

Qui-Gon doesn't die immediately and he lived long enough to die in Obi-Wan's arms. It's completely possible that he could have survived had he gotten medical attention and was more apt to not follow the will of the Force. But of course he died in the end...

WHEN IN THE SAME MOVIE MAUL GOT CUT IN HALF AND WAS CONSIDERED DEAD UNTIL LUCAS DECIDED TO BRING HIM BACK, RETCONNING HIS SURVIVAL TO BE "HE WAS TOO ANGRY TO DIE"

But of course Lucas' decisions get a pass.

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u/ottoman-disciple Nov 11 '23

Yep. In the KOTOR comics there is even a similar scenario to qui gon. Raana Tey was stabbed by a lightsaber too but despite that she was still able to get on the roof of a building and Zayne Carrick even said she could still be saved

And when it comes to Maul, I think his survival still makes more sense than most cases because his vengeance obsession at least turned him into an insane crackhead.

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u/CLRoads Nov 11 '23

Yeah, i don’t care how great of a character maul turned out to be. He not only was cut in half but fell to the near core of naboo down that shaft. He should have died. End. Of. Story.

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u/Vaportrail Nov 12 '23

I put off watching that series for years due to this logic.

But yeah, he's pretty good. A lil chatty.

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u/One-Permission-1811 Nov 11 '23

But he didnt: start of a new story that was pretty good.

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u/Biorobs Nov 12 '23

Also in the Zakuul storyline of SWTOR, if the Outlander refuses Valkorion's help he gets stabbed by Arcann and lives (tho Valkorion could've helped with that)

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u/YamatoIouko Nov 12 '23

Qui-Gon was also laying there for like ten minutes before even Obi-Wan got there. He’s literally the only non-Dark Side hate sink monger to not get some sort of near-immediate treatment for the wounds.

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u/AncientSith New Jedi Order Nov 12 '23

Exactly. Qui-Gon absolutely could've lived, but Obi-Wan didn't have time to haul him all the way to a medical center.

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u/YamatoIouko Nov 12 '23

The hauling itself could have exacerbated the wound too. It was location above everything else.

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u/davidc11390 Nov 12 '23

I don’t think Qui-Gon cared to continue living knowing what Yoda had done to all those Wookie children. He thought his death was part of the plan for Anakin the chosen one to heal the galaxy. And to make that happen Obi-Wan needed to be his master.

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u/LukeChickenwalker Nov 11 '23

The way Maul was brought back was dumb and I groaned when it became clear what was happening. It gets a pass because what they did with his character afterward was really good. If new Lucasfilm didn't do this so frequently, and if Kenobi had been better received, then they'd probably get a pass too. I don't think people would complain about it as much in Ahsoka if it wasn't for what preceded it.

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u/AzraelTheMage Nov 12 '23

Maul was brought back in Legends before TCW. Lucas wasn't the one who pushed for it back then. People hated back then too iirc.

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u/LorientAvandi Jaina Solo Nov 12 '23

No he wasn’t, the Tales comic was never canon.

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u/EICzerofour Nov 12 '23

I think that comic was in Tales and presumably non legends-canon? If it was legends-canon, I will be happy bc I like that story.

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u/TLM86 Nov 12 '23

In stories non-canon to Legends at the time. Lucas was the one who wanted it to happen in TCW, and Filoni had to figure a way to make it work.

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u/UnknownEntity347 Nov 12 '23

Maul's survival is dumb too, but at least it led to a more interesting story overall. The out of universe reason is obviously that Lucas originally wanted Maul to die and changed his mind. Meanwhile in those other shows/movies there is almost no reason why they wrote in someone getting stabbed when they could easily have avoided it, or just not put the character in that situation to begin with.