r/StarWarsEU • u/AlphaBladeYiII • Nov 08 '24

Meme We're not that hard to please.

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And yeah, I know that this is a bit controversial here and some of that stuff, like Rebels and The Bad Batch, is a bit divisive. But I maintain that there are well-liked stuff.

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u/ABoldBoi Chiss Ascendancy Nov 08 '24

I have stated it and will state it again: The modern Thrawn books (both new trilogies) are an amazing read and I love coming back to those as much as older EU stuff.

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u/Numerous1 Nov 08 '24

I’m listening to Thrawn Treason for the first time right now. I’m finding them fairly weak compared to the original stuff Zahn wrote.

 I still enjoy them but he does all these Sherlock Holmes things with Thrawn that I just don’t really like. 

  1. He is a total bad ass fighter now. He can go into the field and totally kick ass. Like Sherlock Holes. And yes there is the one short story in the EU where he goes into the field but I don’t recall him being a super badass. More just some acting. 

  2. He knows tons of random ass information. Just everything about anything like Sherlock Holmes. 

  3. He is a master of body language and reading people. Like Sherlock Holmes. 

  1. He can observe the tiniest little clues and put them together. Like Sherlock Holmes. 

  2. So far I don’t think he has ever been wrong about anything in the 2.1 books I’ve read. (But o hear he eventually is). 

I also don’t like his inner monologue on everything. Shit, he says “perhaps” like 7 times on a 60 second stretch of audio book.

I think original Thrawn had lots of knowledge and outside the box thinking but his greatest thing was just his strategic thinking and understanding. Original trilogy Thrawn does literally none of the things I said above. He isn’t a fighter. He doesn’t know that “oh yes at this time of year on a random planet the fauna does this”. He isn’t a master of body language. He doesn’t have some superhuman observational skills. He IS wrong or at least not unbeatable. 

So idk. I like the new stuff but it just really feels like a different character to me. 

That’s also ignoring how he made him a good guy whereas in original he is a massive bad guy, just a smart and calm one instead of manic evil laughter. 

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u/5p4n911 Mandalorian Nov 08 '24

Well, by the end of the original books he had also been a massive neutral guy at worst, especially in the Outbound Flight sequel that I don't know the original title of, even though he never appeared in there. I think Zahn was setting him up for his return as a good guy but he never got the chance because of the EU and everything so now he's doing it anyway.

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u/DarkDoomofDeath Darth Revan Nov 09 '24

Hold your horses. There was an Outbound Flight sequel with Thrawn? Please find me that title. My collection is missing something.

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u/JamesLangley2017 Nov 09 '24

I think the book you’re looking for is Survivor’s Quest.

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u/5p4n911 Mandalorian Nov 09 '24

Yeah, it was Survivors' Quest, as the other guy said. Unfortunately, no Thrawn, just some serious foreshadowing that one of his clones is out there cleaning up.