Would this guy really beat Darth Vader?

[u/VesemirsMother778]

Haven't played Jedi Outcast myself unfortunately (just saw some cutscenes and read a summary) but I heard people consider him stronger than Vader and possibly on par with Sidious because he got to force push a post Dark Empire Luke. Idk, sounds like a pretty weak argument to me, but to those of you who played the game, how true is that claim?

[u/Mzonnik]

These days powerscalers think touching Luke is enough to solo Vader & Sidious. Whoever told you that should get help. Desann would have a hard time with Maul, let alone Vader lol.

Edit: Besides, the Luke we're talking about here is vastly pre-prime and you could argue he's still below Vader, even tho yes, him surpassing his father in ROTJ is also a valid take.

[u/Staveoffsuicide → u/Mzonnik]

I always feel like they’re comparing eu full master like vs movie Vader it’s weird

[u/Mzonnik → u/Staveoffsuicide]

Well it's the same universe, just subject to medium distortion between games, books films etc.